Has miguel cotto ducked anybody at welterweight???

[disolly]

Never fought Paul Willaims, Andre Berto, Kermit Cintron, Floyd Mayweather, Luis Collazo... Thats not to say he ducked them.

In my mind he only avoided Williams, didn't really duck him cause he had fought top guys time after time. His first WW fight was Quintana, his third fight was Zab, followed by Mosley, his 6th fight against Margs, eighth against Clottey and then Manny. I am sure he would have fought Floyd if he was given the chance. Berto was and still is pretty unproven, same goes with Collazo, and Cintron had been KO'd by Margs. A guy like Floyd only fought Zab and Baldomir.

[Glamour Puss]

Berto and Cintron were not even on his level at the time.

How could he duck Berto when Berto's still fighting 40' pounders now?

Luis Collazo would've been a decent fight, but why fight him when you can fight Mosley or Margarito for big money?

Who were also tougher fights than Collazo.

[oc9979]

Does this include JWW? Both Cotto, Hatton and another fighter ducked Mayweather at 140 after seeing how badly he dismantled Gatti from ringside. Cotto hid behind Bob Arum who said "He isn't ready for Floyd yet" and Hatton just shut up completely. I can't remember who the third guy was.

As for 147, Paul Williams did call him out and Cotto never fought him, but I don't blame him. Mosley, Mayweather and Margarito at one point wanted no part of him and he really didn't belong at 147. The only guy at WW who didn't duck P.Will was Clottey, but if they fought it would be a lopsided 120-108 decision in favor of Williams and he would set a new record ahead of Margarito's for most punches thrown in a fight.

And to this day I really don't understand why he chose to fight Yuri Foreman when Kermit Cintron was available at the time, at both 147 and 154...It boggles my mind. That fight would attract a HUGE Puerto Rican audience, and it would be a great fight. Its almost even. Both are big punches and they also have some good boxing skills.

that statement was made by Mayweather. Mayweather said that Cotto was not ready

[oc9979]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...40#post7951840

this does not prove anything except that right after William called Cotto, he lost to Quintana

[oc9979]

Jro when you start doing the same thing for Pac and everyone else other then just Floyd then you have a case. Thats just pure Floyd hate.

You mean to tell that Cotto can fight Jennings, Gomez, Quinatana Urkal and Clottey.

And there was no room to fit Paul in? Who was fighting guys like Pakau, Phillips, Koelle and an old Winky?

Man Im not buying that., He couldve fought Williams he chose not to. Period.

What did Quintana got after beating Williams?
Did he become a superstar??
William at the time was another bum that you beat and you didnt get anything. It was like fighting Gomez except a higher risk.

[oc9979]

No this is what he said.

"I would love to fight Miguel Cotto if he becomes his own boss"

Thats what he said.


So using the quote I have bolded. I can say if Cotto wanted the fight he couldve fought Paul right.

Its funny how you twist stuff around to fit ur agenda to discredit Floyd.

Jaja so he had to leave Arum so Mayweather would fight him??
Pacquiao is not his own boss. But Mayweather wants to fight him. JMM is not his own boss but Mayweather fought him

[oc9979]

Yeah Id favor Paul to stop him in about 6 rounds. Hed be all over Cotto.

Does William got better chin that Margarito?? Martinez does not have a lot of power and he knocked down William

[oc9979]

Cotto was supposed to fight the winner of Williams - Margarito and the winner would fight for the unified championship. When Paul won in an upset, Cotto scrapped his plans to fight the winner and fought some low level fighter, until Margo brought another belt to the table by beating Cintron again.

After Cotto fought Margo and lost, Paul Williams put out offers to both Margo and Cotto, again Cotto ignored the challenge and went after another fighter.

Funny you say that because before Margarito vs William
Cotto fought Judah and after that he fought Mosley.

[savorduhflavor]

Timothy Bradley is being criticized for not fighting Devon Alexander for all the marbles. Bernard Hopkins is being criticized for not fighting Dawson for all the marbles. Juan Ma Lopez got criticized for not fighting Caballero for all the marbles. Is Cotto immune from the standards that are held for these other guys? At one time or another Williams and Cotto were ranked #1 and #2, Williams called Cotto out and Cotto went in another direction. End of fucking story.

Haha, you never cease to amaze me.

Cotto was planned to fight Margarito. Williams upset Margarito and called Cotto out. Cotto, instead, opted for a fight that was just as tough and a much bigger money fight.

After Cotto got beatdown by Margarito is it really reasonable to expect him to fight a monster like Williams coming off that loss?

See this is your problem. You don't know enough about the events that transpired over that time period to speak knowledgeably on the subject. You go "well at one point they were number 1 and number 2", but you fail to understand the circumstances surrounding the time period.

Of course Williams was calling out Cotto when Williams was a nobody, it's easy to in that position. Cotto instead fought Shane Mosley, it's not like he took an easier opponent. There was never a point where the fight was feasibly going to happen. Never.

[Iceta Lives]

Haha, you never cease to amaze me.

Cotto was planned to fight Margarito. Williams upset Margarito and called Cotto out. Cotto, instead, opted for a fight that was just as tough and a much bigger money fight.

After Cotto got beatdown by Margarito is it really reasonable to expect him to fight a monster like Williams coming off that loss?

See this is your problem. You don't know enough about the events that transpired over that time period to speak knowledgeably on the subject. You go "well at one point they were number 1 and number 2", but you fail to understand the circumstances surrounding the time period.

Of course Williams was calling out Cotto when Williams was a nobody, it's easy to in that position. Cotto instead fought Shane Mosley, it's not like he took an easier opponent. There was never a point where the fight was feasibly going to happen. Never.

Cotto can silence this criticism if he fights Williams at 154. But he won't because he can't beat him.