(No hate thread) Do you consider mayweather one of the best Welterweights of this era

[Drive Slow]

Pacquiao's win against Cotto alone trumps anything Floyd's done at Welterweight.

Why is that? It's not like Cotto was undefeated at welterweight. And I'm not even gonna get into the details about the "arrangements" of the Pac-Cotto "welterweight" fight.

[Eaner0919]

Wtf? Hell no.

of this era hell nah

as a big fan of Floyd one thing I have to be honest with is the lack of substance at anything that truely would make him a great as welterweight

yes we can say he fought for lineal belt, he fought nothing but top tens etc etc

but what is missing is that one measure of greatness to truely seperate himself as an elite welterweight.......in terms of resume. He has no formidable challenger on his dockett because while on paper we can spin things to make it seem like he took on a litany of tough opponents we can see with our own eyes there hasn't been a TRUE challenge for him thus far

when your two toughest fights as a welter are 1. at 154lbs against a part time fighter/promoter and 2. against the 140lb champ who looked average in his debut as a welterweight well then you have some ground to make up frankly

However, the skillset is there and no one can deny that even his staunchest critics

but even his TRUE fans have to concede that Floyd still has meat on the bones that need to be finished before we can call him a great welterweight

[nujabes77]

of this era hell nah

as a big fan of Floyd one thing I have to be honest with is the lack of substance at anything that truely would make him a great as welterweight

yes we can say he fought for lineal belt, he fought nothing but top tens etc etc

but what is missing is that one measure of greatness to truely seperate himself as an elite welterweight.......in terms of resume. He has no formidable challenger on his dockett because while on paper we can spin things to make it seem like he took on a litany of tough opponents we can see with our own eyes there hasn't been a TRUE challenge for him thus far

when your two toughest fights as a welter are 1. at 154lbs against a part time fighter/promoter and 2. against the 140lb champ who looked average in his debut as a welterweight well then you have some ground to make up frankly

However, the skillset is there and no one can deny that even his staunchest critics

but even his TRUE fans have to concede that Floyd still has meat on the bones that need to be finished before we can call him a great welterweight

'skillset' is not valid until proven...

[SuckaPunch]

correction. mosley (#2 @ ww) vs mayweather (#3 @ ww) will not be for the official Ring Mag Lineal title.

http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/welterweight/

[nujabes77]

I've got a serious question for you. What will you have left to cry about after May 1st?

cry? why?


lmao im betting on mayweather... shane is just past it...

[Chunk..]

Why is that? It's not like Cotto was undefeated at welterweight. And I'm not even gonna get into the details about the "arrangements" of the Pac-Cotto "welterweight" fight.

Cotto is quite considerably a lot better then everyone Floyd has fought at Welterweight thus far. That shouldn't even be up for debate.

[IMDAZED]

of this era hell nah

as a big fan of Floyd one thing I have to be honest with is the lack of substance at anything that truely would make him a great as welterweight

yes we can say he fought for lineal belt, he fought nothing but top tens etc etc

but what is missing is that one measure of greatness to truely seperate himself as an elite welterweight.......in terms of resume. He has no formidable challenger on his dockett because while on paper we can spin things to make it seem like he took on a litany of tough opponents we can see with our own eyes there hasn't been a TRUE challenge for him thus far

when your two toughest fights as a welter are 1. at 154lbs against a part time fighter/promoter and 2. against the 140lb champ who looked average in his debut as a welterweight well then you have some ground to make up frankly

However, the skillset is there and no one can deny that even his staunchest critics

but even his TRUE fans have to concede that Floyd still has meat on the bones that need to be finished before we can call him a great welterweight

Agreed. Quality of opposition just isn't quite there. But all that changes if he beats Mosley on May 1.

[nujabes77]

Cotto is quite considerably a lot better then everyone Floyd has fought at Welterweight thus far. That shouldn't even be up for debate.

baldomir beats cotto, styles make fights

[-MAKAVELLI-]

a 'great' WW in this era?


great producer of revenue...that's about it



130-135 no doubt...147, not so much

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Thread going how I thought. A split.