(No hate thread) Do you consider mayweather one of the best Welterweights of this era

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  • Akyra
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    #41
    i consider autumn marie anderson one of the best ww of our era...

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      #42
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      He is one of the best who could not make top 5 of a 10yrs WW list? OK.... Can I see your top 5 from 2000 to now. I am just curious who you have ranked ahead of Floyd.
      I dont get why you only think 5 WW's can say they are the best. I didnt base my ranking on since the decade started, the thread said THIS era. Floyds era.

      I take as since Floyd moved to WW in 2005 is he one of the best at that weight. Thats his era. He couldnt fight Forrest, Tito, Nell and Oscar. His WW era is not with those guys.

      Hes a Top WW for HIS era. I dont understand why we cant call a guy one of the top WW's for his era just becauase hes not top 5 when he was at 130 Pounds when you compiled the list you're talking about.

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      • Chrismart
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        I dont really rate him as on of the best. Skill wise, yes without a doubt, but his resume isnt that great. Thing is, if he had taken more risks with his fights at 147, im sure he would of won most of those 'bigger' fights as hes a great fighter. Then his welter-weight resume would of looked a hell of alot better.

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          #44
          He may be one of the best, but he hasn't proven himself at welterweight yet..

          Baldomir, Hatton, Judah = not great wins

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            #45
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            I dont get why you only think 5 WW's can say they are the best. I didnt base my ranking on since the decade started, the thread said THIS era. Floyds era.

            I take as since Floyd moved to WW in 2005 is he one of the best at that weight. Thats his era. He couldnt fight Forrest, Tito, Nell and Oscar. His WW era is not with those guys.

            Hes a Top WW for HIS era. I dont understand why we cant call a guy one of the top WW's for his era just becauase hes not top 5 when he was at 130 Pounds when you compiled the list you're talking about.
            I don't know why you keep bringing up Tito and Whitaker. This is like the third post you mentioned them in this thread.

            All I asked is for a top 5 list from 2000 which you have not provided. But, you agree in the last 10yrs he is not in the top 5 in WWs. But, you still consider him one of the best.

            How far do you have to go to not be called one of the best of the era? Top 10? 25? 50? 100? I mean we talking about 1 weight-class in a 10yrs span. Top 5 is sufficient enough no? If you can't make top 5 in a 10yrs span then how can you be called one of the best?

            If we go top 10? Is their a possiblity that Clottey, Judah, or Baldomir to be on there? And, are we going to call them one fo the best since they made a top 10 list in a 10yrs span?

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              #46
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              I dont get why you only think 5 WW's can say they are the best. I didnt base my ranking on since the decade started, the thread said THIS era. Floyds era.

              I take as since Floyd moved to WW in 2005 is he one of the best at that weight. Thats his era. He couldnt fight Forrest, Tito, Nell and Oscar. His WW era is not with those guys.

              Hes a Top WW for HIS era. I dont understand why we cant call a guy one of the top WW's for his era just becauase hes not top 5 when he was at 130 Pounds when you compiled the list you're talking about.
              The only reason I don't consider him a top "Welterweight" (not fighter, he's one of the tops in this era by far) is because he didn't compete thoroughly as a Welterweight more than just getting the big fight with Oscar and then getting another big payday with Hatton. His era does include Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Williams, Berto, Clottey, etc. Now obviously, it'll easily be dismissed as, "They bring no money" which I totally agree with. BUT, those guys IMO (maybe except Williams) have carried the flagship of that division (especially Mosley being he's had 2 runs at WW) for the last few years, even during the time when Floyd was on his way to fighting Hatton.

              I'll measure Floyd all day above a lot of those guys in the skill dept, but it's a shame he didn't fight at least 3 of those guys. Win or lose, I'd definitely would put him as one of the tops as I do with the others who actually did all fight one another one way or the other.

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                #47
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                I don't know why you keep bringing up Tito and Whitaker. This is like the third post you mentioned them in this thread.

                All I asked is for a top 5 list from 2000 which you have not provided. But, you agree in the last 10yrs he is not in the top 5 in WWs. But, you still consider him one of the best.

                How far do you have to go to not be called one of the best of the era? Top 10? 25? 50? 100? I mean we talking about 1 weight-class in a 10yrs span. Top 5 is sufficient enough no? If you can't make top 5 in a 10yrs span then how can you be called one of the best?

                If we go top 10? Is their a possiblity that Clottey, Judah, or Baldomir to be on there? And, are we going to call them one fo the best since they made a top 10 list in a 10yrs span?
                The thread said is he one of the best WW's of THIS era. It did not say since the decade started. For his era hes on of the best.

                Why do you have to be Top 5 since 2000 to be one of the best? I dont get that at all.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Can you do a top 5 since 2000?
                  Let's see.

                  1. Margarito
                  2. Mosley
                  3.

                  Help me out here...

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Ravishing
                    The only reason I don't consider him a top "Welterweight" (not fighter, he's one of the tops in this era by far) is because he didn't compete thoroughly as a Welterweight more than just getting the big fight with Oscar and then getting another big payday with Hatton. His era does include Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Williams, Berto, Clottey, etc. Now obviously, it'll easily be dismissed as, "They bring no money" which I totally agree with. BUT, those guys IMO (maybe except Williams) have carried the flagship of that division (especially Mosley being he's had 2 runs at WW) for the last few years, even during the time when Floyd was on his way to fighting Hatton.

                    I'll measure Floyd all day above a lot of those guys in the skill dept, but it's a shame he didn't fight at least 3 of those guys. Win or lose, I'd definitely would put him as one of the tops as I do with the others who actually did all fight one another one way or the other.
                    Yeah I can agree with this. He didnt fight everybody but then again no one did. Among his WW era which would include Pac, Mosley, Cotto, Marg, Berto, etc....Hes one of the best. Now saying since 2000 is a whole different ear and subject.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      The thread said is he one of the best WW's of THIS era. It did not say since the decade started. For his era hes on of the best.

                      Why do you have to be Top 5 since 2000 to be one of the best? I dont get that at all.
                      Then how far do you need to go to NOT be called one of the best? Top 10? top 25?

                      From 2000 can Baldomir make the top 10 list? And are we going to call Baldomir one of the best WWs of this era?

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