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(No hate thread) Do you consider mayweather one of the best Welterweights of this era

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  • #31
    Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
    Floyd didnt hit WW until the middle of the decade.

    I wouldnt consider guys like Tito, Nell, Oscar, Quartey and Forrest to be in his era for WW's. Floyds era is guys like Cotto, Marg, Judah, Baldi, Mosley, Pac etc...
    That was not my question. You agree that he was not in the top 5 WWs since 2000. So that means you must agree that he is not one of the best WWs of this era since he could not even make your top 5 list right?

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    • #32
      As a big PBF fan I would have to say no. The Judah and Baldomir wins are decent. But even though PBF in overall rankings is better than the fighters at 147 those fighters resumes at 147 is better than PBF's resume. So in turn that makes them rank higher than him at that weight. Just because PBF is better than they are doesn't mean he should be ranked higher when they have done more than he has in that division.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Wangler Jr View Post
        they're saying this in the promos, and i'd like to see what you guys think since alot of you feel like he has ducked top competition at welterweight
        One of the best welterweight of this era.......... ahhh NO.Mosley should be there though.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Wangler Jr View Post
          they're saying this in the promos, and i'd like to see what you guys think since alot of you feel like he has ducked top competition at welterweight
          he's only had 5 fights at WW and only one of them was a real WW that wasn't moving up in weight.

          mitchel (140 lber)
          judah (140 lber)
          baldomir
          hatton (140 lber)
          jmm (135 lber)

          You can't call him an ATG WW based on that resume.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            Top 10 list from what though? The last 5yrs? 10yrs? 20yrs?
            It says of this era, not of all time. Its kinda hard for me to vote on this to be honest, I am mixed.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
              But, you agree that he was not in the top 5 WWs since 2000. So that means you must agree that he is not one of the best WWs of this era since he could not even make your top 5 list right?
              So only 5 WW's are the best? He doesnt have to be top 5 to be recognized as one of the best. Wherever hes ranked its not bad for his 4th weight class. When the decade started Floyd was a Super Feather weight who been boxing pro for 4 years.

              Hes one of the best WW of his era. Amongst the guys he couldve fought at WW when he moved there hes one of the best bar none.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                So only 5 WW's are the best? He doesnt have to be top 5 to be recognized as one of the best. Wherever hes ranked its not bad for his 4th weight class. When the decade started Floyd was a Super Feather weight who been boxing pro for 4 years.

                Hes one of the best WW of his era. Amongst the guys he couldve fought at WW when he moved there hes one of the best bar none.
                He is one of the best who could not make top 5 of a 10yrs WW list? OK.... Can I see your top 5 from 2000 to now. I am just curious who you have ranked ahead of Floyd.

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                • #38
                  His last actual fight with another Welterweight was Carlos Baldomir which was in 2006. It's now 2010 and since then fighters such as Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Paul Williams, Carlos Quintana, and many others have all fought one another and IMO are much greater competition than either Baldomir or Zab. Floyd's goal IMO was ultimately score a fight with Oscar being he was still the money maker. The WW division wasn't as stacked as it became after Floyd beat Hatton with guys like Cotto and Margarito looming around as potential opponents but not being sure hits at the Box Office. But during that time we saw all the best WWs fight one another and it also ushered in Pacquiao who ironically ended being the ticket seller.

                  You have to give Floyd credit for beating Baldy because that's just who the champ was at the time. But in comparison to the flock that followed, Floyd wasn't going to risk his "0" against any of those guys because they didn't bring the money he wanted. I don't think he was scared to fight any of them, but his stock would go down much worse against someone with the namesake of Clottey's as opposed to losing to say Pacquiao who's regarded as the best in the world. Everything is a business venture for Floyd.

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                  • #39
                    Id say hes one of but defiantly not the best welterweight there are far more proven welterweights than May.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by HandSpeed303 View Post
                      I didn't vote cause my opinion doesn't match any of the options.

                      Skill wise? Yes!

                      Resume wise? No!...Hell no!!!


                      Pretty much this..

                      Floyd Resume at 147 is a joke..

                      But the man has skills.. no doubt..

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