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  • scap
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    #31
    Originally posted by McKay
    Tyson has beat more accomplished heavyweights than Ike Ibeabuchi like for instance Frank Bruno twice. Henry Tillman Alex Stewart Michael Spinks Larry Holmes Marvis Frazier. And like I said Bruno hits harder than Ibeabuchi. All his wins are by KO except 2 and his chin is not that bad. He took some brutal uppercuts from Tyson in the first fight and was still standing up but his corner threw in the towel. Only persons Bruno ever lost to was Tyson twice, Lennox Lewis and then somebody else at the end of his career.
    Alex Stewart, Henry Tillman and Marvis ****ing Frazier were accomplished HW's...boy you have a lot to learn.

    By the way Bruno was the type of guy not to go down, he enjoyed being ko'd on his feet, check out his fight with Lennox, he won every round and then got caught by a lucky LEFT and he fell a sleep on his feet.

    Marvis Frazier, cmon Mckay, ****!

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      #32
      A lot of people have overrated Ike but what I've seen of him against Tua, Byrd, and a couple of clips against Davis remains...

      He was a strong fighter with a good jab, threw punches in combination well, a good chin, good ring presence, intelligence inside of the ring, good power, and patience.

      Time and time again people have lost their cool against Byrd...not Ike. Tua has blasted out many good fighters with that left hook...not Ike.

      I don't think Ike would have beaten a fighter like Lennox Lewis, but he would have given him a good fight, and he would have beaten the post-prison release form of Mike Tyson.

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        #33
        Originally posted by McKay
        Larry Holmes was a skilled with one heck of a jab and was not afraid of him. Frank Bruno had a good jab too. You are thinking of Tyson vs Lennox Lewis saying that cant deal with jabs. Nobody ever wanted to throw jabs against him because he would jump through those jabs and land a gigantic left hook and then get inside and land an upercut.
        he's talking about the entire package, being fearless, having a tremendous chin, unbreakable will, good power, patience, good punch output,these sorts of things would be things that tyson had not encountered very often, and when he did he LOST.

        Frank bruno did not have these things.

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          #34
          Originally posted by scap
          Alex Stewart, Henry Tillman and Marvis ****ing Frazier were accomplished HW's...boy you have a lot to learn.

          By the way Bruno was the type of guy not to go down, he enjoyed being ko'd on his feet, check out his fight with Lennox, he won every round and then got caught by a lucky LEFT and he fell a sleep on his feet.

          Marvis Frazier, cmon Mckay, ****!
          I dont want to here about the Lennox Lewis fight. That version of Tyson does not need Lennox Lewis to lose to. That version of Tyson can lose to Danny Williams.

          Mike Tyson one of the most accomplished heavyweights of the late 80's and 90's you are ridiculously saying would be obliterated by a totally unacomplished fighter in Ibeabuchi.

          Ibeabuchie KO'd Byrd oh wow. Golota beat the **** of Byrd too. McCline beat him up pretty bad. Wlad beat the **** of him.

          Tyson has destroyed way better fighters than Byrd. Dont try to tell me that Chris Byrd is a better fighter than Michael Spinks who Tyson KO'd in less than a mineute.

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            #35
            Originally posted by McKay
            Larry Holmes was a skilled with one heck of a jab and was not afraid of him. Frank Bruno had a good jab too. You are thinking of Tyson vs Lennox Lewis saying that cant deal with jabs. Nobody ever wanted to throw jabs against him because he would jump through those jabs and land a gigantic left hook and then get inside and land an upercut.

            Tyson vs Lennox Lewis= Tyson weighs in at 2nd highest weight ever at 234 pounds. He was only above 230 pounds 3 times. Against Brian Nielson 239 Lennox Lewis 234 and Danny Williams 233.

            Bad usage of Larry Holmes. Everyone knows that Larry was WELL past his best and stood very little chance to keep that young Mike off of him.

            The Tyson that beat Holmes would have beaten Ike...but after prison Mike would have gotten merc'd.

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              #36
              Originally posted by oldgringo
              Bad usage of Larry Holmes. Everyone knows that Larry was WELL past his best and stood very little chance to keep that young Mike off of him.

              The Tyson that beat Holmes would have beaten Ike...but after prison Mike would have gotten merc'd.
              Larry Holmes went on to fight in the 2000's decade. HE even put up a very good performance against Evander Holyfield in the early 90's. A VERY GOOD performance in a bid for the Undisputed Heavyweight Title. And this was years prior to that. This is right after Holmes lost to Michael Spinks in what year 1987? Holmes was bouncing on his feet in that fight and everything landing the jab. He was doing good. He just got caught bad and could not recover.

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                #37
                [QUOTE=scap]Cmon McKay your better than this,



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                with some of the garbage he is spewing i don't think he is better than that, with all due respect.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  I dont want to here about the Lennox Lewis fight. That version of Tyson does not need Lennox Lewis to lose to. That version of Tyson can lose to Danny Williams.

                  Mike Tyson one of the most accomplished heavyweights of the late 80's and 90's you are ridiculously saying would be obliterated by a totally unacomplished fighter in Ibeabuchi.

                  Ibeabuchie KO'd Byrd oh wow. Golota beat the **** of Byrd too. McCline beat him up pretty bad. Wlad beat the **** of him.

                  Tyson has destroyed way better fighters than Byrd. Dont try to tell me that Chris is Byrd is a better fighter than Michael Spinks who Tyson KO'd in less than a mineute.

                  Mike Spinks was a LHW who has trembling in fear of being in the ring with Tyson. Again, SKILLED fighters with a good jab and HEART/CHIN beat Mike Tyson.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by McKay
                    Larry Holmes went on to fight in the 2000's decade. HE even put up a very good performance against Evander Holyfield in the early 90's. A VERY GOOD performance in a bid for the Undisputed Heavyweight Title. And this was years prior to that. This is right after Holmes lost to Michael Spinks in what year 1987? Holmes was bouncing on his feet in that fight and everything landing the jab. He was doing good. He just got caught bad and could not recover.

                    Already had a 15 year career with 50 fights on his resume...already had taxing fights with Shavers and Cooney...

                    Prime or close to prime Holmes would have toyed with Tyson.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by oldgringo
                      Bad usage of Larry Holmes. Everyone knows that Larry was WELL past his best and stood very little chance to keep that young Mike off of him.

                      The Tyson that beat Holmes would have beaten Ike...but after prison Mike would have gotten merc'd.
                      Tyson was fine after prison. He would lost to EVander Holyfield any year and time any place. That is just a fact that Holyfield had Tyson's number. Holyfield had been calling out Tyson ever since he went to the heavyweight division. Just because he lost to Holyfield after coming out Prison does not mean ****. Then after loosing to the Holyfield he did not get a chance to fight again until like the year 2000 and then it was clear that he was a dimished fighter. After coming out prison he became WBA WBC Heavyweight champion and in my opinion looked stronger than directly before entering prison against Ruddock.

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