Does anyone remember Pavlik/Hopkins? You DON'T throw 100+ punches when the other fighter ISN'T in range. It would actually be ****** to do so. Hopkins controlled the "range" on the fight. Floyd is ALSO very good at that. Hopkins mixed in "holding" at the proper time too and that kept Pavlik from getting in a rhythm. If Pacman was to win it'll have to be from SKILL and POWER. Floyd is probably the most "skilled" fighter out there, so the "skill" options not going to work. It'll have to be POWER, and Pacman has plenty of that. I'll assume Floyd will react to that power like the rest of the WW's have. And they haven't been able to withstand it. But there is the next problem....you have to CONNECT on Floyd for the POWER to mean anything. We ALL know that's no easy task. Clottey withstood the power by not getting hit by it. But he also didn't throw punches. Floyd's defense is NOT Clottey's. His defense involves MOVEMENT, AVOIDANCE, and COUNTERING. Pavliks power meant NOTHING cause he couldn't connect with it. So for Pacmans sake, I hope her really DOES have a way to break down Floyds defense that he claims is so easy to decipher. Cause I haven't seen it decipher yet.
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This is getting old. Can't we just go with the same old "reason?"
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Originally posted by know1212risk View PostDoes anyone remember Pavlik/Hopkins? You DON'T throw 100+ punches when the other fighter ISN'T in range. It would actually be ****** to do so. Hopkins controlled the "range" on the fight. Floyd is ALSO very good at that. Hopkins mixed in "holding" at the proper time too and that kept Pavlik from getting in a rhythm. If Pacman was to win it'll have to be from SKILL and POWER. Floyd is probably the most "skilled" fighter out there, so the "skill" options not going to work. It'll have to be POWER, and Pacman has plenty of that. I'll assume Floyd will react to that power like the rest of the WW's have. And they haven't been able to withstand it. But there is the next problem....you have to CONNECT on Floyd for the POWER to mean anything. We ALL know that's no easy task. Clottey withstood the power by not getting hit by it. But he also didn't throw punches. Floyd's defense is NOT Clottey's. His defense involves MOVEMENT, AVOIDANCE, and COUNTERING. Pavliks power meant NOTHING cause he couldn't connect with it. So for Pacmans sake, I hope her really DOES have a way to break down Floyds defense that he claims is so easy to decipher. Cause I haven't seen it decipher yet.
you are classifying Pacquiao as a one dimensional slugger like Pavlik. Mistake number 1. Pacquiao is all technical, and very fast on his feet.
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Originally posted by them_apples View Postyou are classifying Pacquiao as a one dimensional slugger like Pavlik. Mistake number 1. Pacquiao is all technical, and very fast on his feet.
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i think mayweather is hittable if we consider pacman`s style. work rate in intuitive/weird angles with speed can be a very effective weapon. but that is considering may`s evasion skill only. with counterpunching skills, pac has yet to show us how to nullify them.
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Originally posted by them_apples View Postyou are classifying Pacquiao as a one dimensional slugger like Pavlik. Mistake number 1. Pacquiao is all technical, and very fast on his feet.Last edited by Carpe Diem; 03-29-2010, 02:09 AM.
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The way Mayweather handles Mosleys power and aggression will tell A LOT. Because even thought Mosley and Manny have different styles, if Mayweather can AVOID the power and aggression of Mosely then more than likely he'll be able to with Manny also. But that a big IF. We'll have to see
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