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  • #11
    Originally posted by know1212risk View Post
    The way Mayweather handles Mosleys power and aggression will tell A LOT. Because even thought Mosley and Manny have different styles, if Mayweather can AVOID the power and aggression of Mosely then more than likely he'll be able to with Manny also. But that a big IF. We'll have to see
    You comparing fighters who fight nothing alike. Clottey-Floyd do not fight alike. The gameplan they had for Clottey they will not have for Floyd. Take that into account. Since Clottey fights nothing like Floyd

    Pavlik-Pacquio fight nothing alike. Pavlik at 170 does not have the speed or thows over 100 punches a round. Pavlik is not southpaw who uses a lot of movement like Pacquiao does. Hopkins control the range cuz Pavlik quick feet. Pacquiao does. It would be harder for Floyd to control the range than Hopkins had to deal with.

    Mosley-Pacquioa do not fight nothing alike. Their power is the different is not the same. If Floyd could handle Shane power and aggresion and avoid Shane does not mean he would be able to do the same to Pac. Shane does not have the speed or the footwork that Pacquiao. Shane does not have the arsenal of punches that Pac has. Shane does not have the head movement that Pacquiao has. Shane is not a southpaw stance who gives very weird angles like Pacquiao does.

    They're actually night and day different. So looking at any fight between these two fighters previous fights or future fights is actually ****** since neither fighter will be able to fight somebody who actually fights like the other. Is going to be harder to time Pac since he is very unorthodox his style is different and his speed, power, awkwardness, and movent is different from anybody else right now. Floyd has never ever ever ever fought anybody like Pac. So I can not say how Floyd could handle that style. And, Pac has never fought anybody like Floyd before. Nobody knows how this is going to play out. You can't even guess.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by know1212risk View Post
      I don't think he's one dimensional at all. I just think his power is his best chance of winning and it'll be a tough task to land that power. If he can figure out how he should be in good shape. But it might not be as easy as he seems to think being that NO ONE has been able to land much on Mayweather.
      however good Mayweathers defense is, it can't be any better than a man that covers up and hardly fights back at all. I know Mayweather might get on his bicycle a bit more, but if he plans on winning I'd expect him to open up a bit.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by P4P305 View Post
        I don't see how Manny is all that technical. Without his power and speed, he's above average, but not great. Without power and speed, Marquez would make him look like an amateur. The only reason why Marquez wasn't able to beat Manny in their two fights was because Manny was way too fast and powerful, but when he try to outboxed Marquez, he got schooled. He has improved without a doubt, but i don't think he's all that technical. I still think the if the Mayweather VS Manny fight happen, Manny can still beat Floyd because of his speed and power. He's arguably the fastest boxer in the world today and add that with his power, he's just too tough to handle.
        not faster than gamboa

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        • #14
          Originally posted by P4P305 View Post
          I don't see how Manny is all that technical. Without his power and speed, he's above average, but not great.
          LOL, that's like saying, 'Without his defence and speed, Mayweather is only above average'

          Fact is Manny is quicker than Floyd, he's busier, fitter, stronger physically and he punches way harder. Floyd needs to put up or shut up and drop this OST bull****.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Kilrain View Post
            LOL, that's like saying, 'Without his defence and speed, Mayweather is only above average'

            Fact is Manny is quicker than Floyd, he's busier, fitter, stronger physically and he punches way harder. Floyd needs to put up or shut up and drop this OST bull****.
            OST will not be dropped and manny can press on with his bs lawsuit thats not going anywhere.

            if pachas the balls and is clean, he will take the test and go punish floyd but we all know flloyd is going to school pac.

            thats why pac backed out of their march fight

            jro, let manny attempt at throwing 100 punches around. thats going to be worse for him. but its not going to happen. floyd will cut his workrate in half

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            • #16
              Originally posted by yesir View Post
              OST will not be dropped and manny can press on with his bs lawsuit thats not going anywhere.

              if pachas the balls and is clean, he will take the test and go punish floyd but we all know flloyd is going to school pac.

              thats why pac backed out of their march fight

              jro, let manny attempt at throwing 100 punches around. thats going to be worse for him. but its not going to happen. floyd will cut his workrate in half
              And, Floyd called Manny one dimensional and easy money and easy work. Too bad Floyd really does not feel that way and does not feel the way you did either. Because, if he did he would drop that demand and fight Pac, school Pac, and take 40mil to the bank. But, is obvious he is worried about something.

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              • #17
                Exactly. I enjoyed the previous jro post, no one can tell how this fight plays out.
                Last edited by Kilrain; 03-29-2010, 07:50 AM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  And, Floyd called Manny one dimensional and easy money and easy work. Too bad Floyd really does not feel that way and does not feel the way you did either. Because, if he did he would drop that demand and fight Pac, school Pac, and take 40mil to the bank. But, is obvious he is worried about something.
                  Yes, his zero and he knows his nuthuggers here will drop him like a hot potato if he lose that.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    And, Floyd called Manny one dimensional and easy money and easy work. Too bad Floyd really does not feel that way and does not feel the way you did either. Because, if he did he would drop that demand and fight Pac, school Pac, and take 40mil to the bank. But, is obvious he is worried about something.
                    there is a reason why hes the smartest cat in boxing. no reason to take unnecessary risk against a cheater.

                    cheater comes in the fight clean proven by OST. they get the fight on and pac gets schooled.

                    cheater exposed

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      And, Floyd called Manny one dimensional and easy money and easy work. Too bad Floyd really does not feel that way and does not feel the way you did either. Because, if he did he would drop that demand and fight Pac, school Pac, and take 40mil to the bank. But, is obvious he is worried about something.
                      That's what I meant to quote

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