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  • edgarg
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    #41
    Originally posted by Munchies
    ******* is a religion and a race. Israel only allows ***s by race to immigrate there and they don't care if they're athiest as long as they aren't Christian.

    They are easily the most racist people on the planet yet they promote massive foreign immigration, anti-racism and race mixing to white people through their control and ownership of the media.
    You sound like a xenophobic nut, with your 19th century "idea" as to what ***s are or are not. Why don't you go to a library and pick out a good, objective book on the subject- if you can find one.

    For your information, Israel allows ***s, AND THOSE MARRIED TO ***S to immigrate to Israel, even if they're Martians. Over half of the 2 million Russian immigrants are not ***ish by the ***ish Laws, which they call "Halacha", where in a mixed marriage a child is ***ish only if the mother is ***ish, not the father. So in a country like Soviet Russia, where the religion was banned for 70 years, a very mixed kind of relationship in families had grown up. The israeli Government didn't have the heart to separate family members from each other. Some of these immigrants constitute a large proportion of the lawlessness in the generally law abiding country.

    There is a very large group of Black Hebrews living as permanent residents in Israel, who went there as tourists, and then refused to leave. They populate a whole town in the Negev. They are mainly from Chicago or Detroit, and have NO ***ish blood at all, not a drop, except what there is in the imagination of their leader, an ex criminal, who "HAD A VISION". Look them up on the internet.

    To get back to the topic, I had no idea that Atlas was part ***ish, I am fairly certain he is NOT, the "missing half" of his heritage, i believe is GREEK.

    As for his training skills i have written about them before, and will just say here that i think Atlas is "the kiss of death" for any good fighter, especially when he tries to "remake" him into his own, rigid, un natural mould. Atlas, in my opinion is a bit more than half nuts.

    So enough of the nonsense talk about matters you don't know anything about.

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    • Tobi.G
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      #42
      Originally posted by Cotto-Rulez
      It's easy to say that when you don't know how hard it is to land on Wladimir and how heavy is his left jab.

      I said the same but Chambers fight made me realize even when his opponents are motivated, try to win; Wlad is still too good. Same thing for Vitali ; Arreola tried but he had no chance.

      Btw i always said Povetkin has that kind of talent that could make him beat the Klits.

      War Povetkin!!!!!!!!
      Well, i think Povetkin has not the right defence and not enough strenght to beat Klitschkos. It would not be so dramatic if he had a Tua like chin, but he hasnt! Actually i think Tua has more a chance against Wlad than has Povetkin. His defense is not worse than Povetkins but he has much more power and a much better chin.

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      • Munchies
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        #43
        Originally posted by edgarg
        You sound like a xenophobic nut, with your 19th century "idea" as to what ***s are or are not. Why don't you go to a library and pick out a good, objective book on the subject- if you can find one.

        For your information, Israel allows ***s, AND THOSE MARRIED TO ***S to immigrate to Israel, even if they're Martians. Over half of the 2 million Russian immigrants are not ***ish by the ***ish Laws, which they call "Halacha", where in a mixed marriage a child is ***ish only if the mother is ***ish, not the father. So in a country like Soviet Russia, where the religion was banned for 70 years, a very mixed kind of relationship in families had grown up. The israeli Government didn't have the heart to separate family members from each other. Some of these immigrants constitute a large proportion of the lawlessness in the generally law abiding country.
        I'd like to see evidence for the above. If a mother is ***ish her kids are ***ish which implies a racial aspect not a religious one.

        There is a very large group of Black Hebrews living as permanent residents in Israel, who went there as tourists, and then refused to leave. They populate a whole town in the Negev. They are mainly from Chicago or Detroit, and have NO ***ish blood at all, not a drop, except what there is in the imagination of their leader, an ex criminal, who "HAD A VISION". Look them up on the internet.
        They went as tourists not immigrants.

        To get back to the topic, I had no idea that Atlas was part ***ish, I am fairly certain he is NOT, the "missing half" of his heritage, i believe is GREEK.
        Teddy Atlas got his start in boxing by brawling on the street. In his new memoir, the ESPN commentator recounts his career as a boxing trainer and his father's role in shaping that career.


        Excerpt: 'Atlas'

        by Teddy Atlas, Peter Alson

        Of all the people who have affected my life, and influenced the choices I've made, none has been more important than my father.

        Dr. Theodore Atlas, Sr., was legendary around Staten Island. A Hungarian ***, originally from the Bronx, he was the kind of doctor that doesn't exist anymore.

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        • Tiozzo
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          #44
          Originally posted by Calilloyd
          No, you said it because you believe he picks on the Klitschko's because they're white and you believe commentators(especially ***ish ones) love black fighters. You've made that very clear. The fact that Atlas didn't even criticize the Klitschko's in this article, and your already crying about it proves my point LOL. Talk about whiny bitches.
          I hope it's just a mistake you actually cited and replied to me, because my posts have nothing to do with the racial and nationalist things some of you brought up.....

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          • Tiozzo
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            #45
            Originally posted by Tobi.G
            Hahah funny word Klitard!! hahahahah I will call them Klitards to for now on, its just so funny!! The Klitards brothers!! Hahaha
            The Klitards are verry effective in what they do, but the fights are boring, thats why i dont like the Klitards!!!
            Obviously I am refering to the nuthuggers of Pacquiao some people call *******s (Pacquiao ******s), not to the Klits brothers themselves... The Klitards are the Klits nuthuggers (Klitschko ******s).

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            • Calilloyd
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              #46
              Originally posted by edgarg
              You sound like a xenophobic nut, with your 19th century "idea" as to what ***s are or are not. Why don't you go to a library and pick out a good, objective book on the subject- if you can find one.

              For your information, Israel allows ***s, AND THOSE MARRIED TO ***S to immigrate to Israel, even if they're Martians. Over half of the 2 million Russian immigrants are not ***ish by the ***ish Laws, which they call "Halacha", where in a mixed marriage a child is ***ish only if the mother is ***ish, not the father. So in a country like Soviet Russia, where the religion was banned for 70 years, a very mixed kind of relationship in families had grown up. The israeli Government didn't have the heart to separate family members from each other. Some of these immigrants constitute a large proportion of the lawlessness in the generally law abiding country.

              There is a very large group of Black Hebrews living as permanent residents in Israel, who went there as tourists, and then refused to leave. They populate a whole town in the Negev. They are mainly from Chicago or Detroit, and have NO ***ish blood at all, not a drop, except what there is in the imagination of their leader, an ex criminal, who "HAD A VISION". Look them up on the internet.

              To get back to the topic, I had no idea that Atlas was part ***ish, I am fairly certain he is NOT, the "missing half" of his heritage, i believe is GREEK.

              As for his training skills i have written about them before, and will just say here that i think Atlas is "the kiss of death" for any good fighter, especially when he tries to "remake" him into his own, rigid, un natural mould. Atlas, in my opinion is a bit more than half nuts.

              So enough of the nonsense talk about matters you don't know anything about.
              You should think before you speak. Or brush up on your research before questioning or commenting on something you obviously knew nothing about.

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              • GRANDSLAM
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                #47
                From what I read I didn't see Atlas criticising Wlad, he was criticising his opponents and he's correct about everything he says, his opponents have had no interest in winning the fight they just stand there and allow Wlad to fight his fight and Wlad fights his fight incredibly well, he's good at what he does but there's no competition out there for him except Haye and Vitali, Haye has power and is aggressive. I have a lot of respect for Teddy and he usually talks sense even if he does go about it in a strange way sometimes, the Pac email thing was dumb though. From what I've seen of Povetkin he looks like tailor made for Wlad but we'll see.

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                • Boxingwizard
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                  #48
                  Atlus is a well known Klitschko hater, he will build Povetkin up until he's fully confident that Povetkin can beat Wladimir.

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                  • Boxingwizard
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by GRANDSLAM
                    From what I read I didn't see Atlas criticising Wlad, he was criticising his opponents and he's correct about everything he says, his opponents have had no interest in winning the fight they just stand there and allow Wlad to fight his fight and Wlad fights his fight incredibly well, he's good at what he does but there's no competition out there for him except Haye and Vitali, Haye has power and is aggressive. I have a lot of respect for Teddy and he usually talks sense even if he does go about it in a strange way sometimes, the Pac email thing was dumb though. From what I've seen of Povetkin he looks like tailor made for Wlad but we'll see.
                    Some of them do want to win, but Wladimir has excellent skills, really fast hands, and tremendous power. Some of the opponents (Eddie Chambers) just didn't know how to beat him.

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                    • Junito-Rulez
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Tobi.G
                      Well, i think Povetkin has not the right defence and not enough strenght to beat Klitschkos. It would not be so dramatic if he had a Tua like chin, but he hasnt! Actually i think Tua has more a chance against Wlad than has Povetkin. His defense is not worse than Povetkins but he has much more power and a much better chin.
                      I think prime Tua probably would have a chance but now, he'd lose every round of a Klitschko fight.

                      Povetkin has talent but i don't think he's ready. His boxing ability, speed and power are pretty interesting. Let Sam Peter take his beating, make the Klits VS David Gaye fight happen, then let Povetkin fight him. In a year he'll have better knowledge, he didn't work with Atlas long enough yet.

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