Manny Pacquiao Or Marvin Hagler. Who's Greater?

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  • Thread Stealer
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    #151
    Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin
    Hearns is really like 6 feet 2 and i dont know why he is listed as 6 feet 1 as PW. PW is taller than Pavlik it became apparent in their press conference. Hagler gave 4 inches in height and reach many times. ODLH was really the only opponent much taller than Pac. In fact, he wanted no part of Yuri Foreman due to the major height differentials. Pac was knocked out two times and had two draws. In addition, he had the infamouse fight with Hussein where he was given a long count and saved by fellow pinoy ref Carlos Padilla. That dosent even include his rematch with JMM that many thought he loss including fellow Pinoy Kuya Nonito Donaire.

    For those who say Pac is much better than Hagler let me know when he ever was knocked out? Also his first two losses were hometown decisions in Philadelphia which he later would avenge by brutal knockouts. The fight with Antefuermo was a draw and later also would be avenge with brutal KO. The fight with SRL i had him losing by 1 point. I already talked about the stipulations on that fight. SRL had the glove size he wanted, ring size, and made a 12 rd instead of 15 rd fight. I myself have Pac rated slightly higher but to say he is much better is pure silly.
    I'm not sure if the loss to Monroe was filmed, but it has never been described as a hometown decision. By most accounts, Monroe clearly beat Hagler.

    The Watts loss was bull**** though, IMO.

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    • BoxingFanFirst
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      #152
      How is Pacman ahead in this vote? Holy **** this forum is dilluded.

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      • Junito-Rulez
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        #153
        Hagler's opposition is better than Pacquiao's. Cotto and Barrera are lesser wins than Hearns and Duran, plus Hagler got robbed against Leonard.

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        • The Underboss
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          #154
          Hagler has the better resume, but man...this is hard.

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          • The Underboss
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            #155
            but nah, I pick Hagler.
            he just fought fighters who are way better than Pac's.

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            • HaglerSteelChin
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              #156
              Originally posted by Thread Stealer
              I'm not sure if the loss to Monroe was filmed, but it has never been described as a hometown decision. By most accounts, Monroe clearly beat Hagler.

              The Watts loss was bull**** though, IMO.
              i am not sure if all three of his fights with monroe are available? I do have the last two in which he won by decision and the other by brutal KO. So he did beat him two times. Before Hagler fought in Italy a country that later he would move too he had a documentary hosted by SRL. In the documentary they just showed clips and talked about his career and desribed his both philly losses as "hometown cooking." During the documentary hagler pretty much said he wanted to end every fight with Ko and his fists because he was tired of the judges taking it away from him. So when he went to England he pretty much wanted to kill Alan Minter to get the MW title. After three rounds he murdered Minter who had enough blood to donate for 10 people at a Red Cross donation bank. He than would win 11 of his 12 defenses by KO; Duran being the only man to last the full 15 rounds.

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              • Akyra
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                #157
                numbers don't lie. there's no doubt and as we all can see it's pretty clear amongst the boxing community that pacquiao is greater.

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                • paulf
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                  #158
                  Lets wait until Mannys done before we start to examine his legacy....

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                  • j.one
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                    #159
                    This is funny as hell.

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                    • h2k
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                      #160
                      LOL. This shouldn't even be close. Pac was greater and it's not even debatable, pac was destroying guys bigger than him while going up in weight, hagler just stay on one division and wait for those great little guys to go up in weight. It's laughable to compare this 2.

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