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  • TboneNYC09
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    #301
    Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
    If Floyd's defense frustrates Pac as it has to many other fighters it will mentally get to him. Just see him chasing down a beaten Cotto or when he couldn't hit Clottey, you can see his facial expression and he does losses concentration. Dumb to say that defense doesn't win fights
    I definitely see Floyd fustrating Manny.Pacquiao gets fustrated in just about every fight,even when he's winning.Manny showed fustration against Clottey with that two handed smack.Pacquiao did that because Clottey wouldn't bring his hands down and Manny couldn't get in a clean shot in.
    Just imagine with Mayweather,Manny cant get a clean shot in and he's getting counter punched all nite.
    Kind of funny to hear people say Mayweather is defence only,when the man has more than half of his wins by KO.

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      #302
      Originally posted by romebyko
      Dude WHY WOULD YOU SAY HE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE?Makes no sense does Mosley Not Have a Family?Mosley is a real fighter There is no Proof to Your Whole DRUG TESTING THEORY.Notice what I called it a THEORY because that's all it is.Personally I'm tired of hearing about it.Not to say you don't make good point's.But dude YOU HAVE NO PROOF.If you did take it to a court of law.Why bad mouth a fhof without any Proof what so ever?
      The drug testing was a simple request from team Mayweather
      to keep the fighters at ease and to know that both were fighting
      on an equal playing field. why can't people just see it like that?
      Taking random blood tests is not a bad thing at all. It was
      the same as Pacquiao wanting Floyd to do the 10MIL weight
      thing. Mosley has nothing to lose because he is at the end
      of his career technically, eventhough he is still a live dog.
      Fact of the matter is, Mosley feels like he has a lot to
      prove in beating May and Pac so if Mosley was to beat Floyd,
      he would jump at the chance to fight Pac without the blood tests
      and I think that is what Pac and roach are banking on. It's too
      obvious that Pacquiao don't want to take the tests but my biggest
      thing is why? Why is it such a big deal? A few drops of blood?
      That right there should be something you would want to do
      with open arms.

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        #303
        Originally posted by apollocreed
        Dude, i really don't wanna get involved in this debate, because it can go on forever. I understand you're a big Moseley fan, and you think he is capable of beating Floyds. Fair enough, your entitled to your view, like I'm entitled to mine. I'm not gonna start producing names from May's resume who I think could beat Shane, because i don't think there's much point in that. i understand the argument that Mosely has fough better welterweights than May, as he has. May has fought top quality opposition from super feather, all the way thru the weights tho, so I don't agree that he has never been tested, and Mosely is gonna bring something totally different to what May's seen before. I think Shane is a top quality fighter and I respect him, but like I've said in my other post about May, I think he's already had to deal with just about every style there is, and prevailed, just not at 147. Bottom line is, I think Mayweather will beat Mosely. I'll also ask you a question. Do you think Vernon Forrest, Cotto and Winky would all beat Mayweather?? Because I definately don't.
        I respect that bro.But I also think you could not produce a name from May's resume that in you heart you believe would beat Mosley.Having said that I Forest and wright would have beat Mayweather.They are big man and have long jab's no way for May to pop shot.Forest(R.I.P.) had good movement and would have trouble Mayweather and outpointed him imho.Winky was always a MW to me and would have walk May back hit with a long jab.I don't see May having a answer for either one of umm.As for Cotto I think he would have gave his all against May but lost.But I do feel if it was Cotto before the marga's brick beating then it would have been close.Like 7-5.

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          #304
          Originally posted by romebyko
          I do!!!.In an early post on this page I explained why.
          The same Collazo that had a close war with the not fully tested
          Andre Berto at 147? Floyd would spank Collazo.

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            #305
            Originally posted by romebyko
            I respect that bro.But I also think you could not produce a name from May's resume that in you heart you believe would beat Mosley.Having said that I Forest and wright would have beat Mayweather.They are big man and have long jab's no way for May to pop shot.Forest(R.I.P.) had good movement and would have trouble Mayweather and outpointed him imho.Winky was always a MW to me and would have walk May back hit with a long jab.I don't see May having a answer for either one of umm.As for Cotto I think he would have gave his all against May but lost.But I do feel if it was Cotto before the marga's brick beating then it would have been close.Like 7-5.
            Forrest and Winky were/are big and have solid jabs so can see them
            giving Floyd fits but Cotto? I never thought Cotto was anything
            special in the ring. Cotto was a mental midget even before Margarito.
            Take away his punch and pressure and Miguel was easy pickings.
            I feel technically back then Floyd trumps Cotto and TKO's him.
            Cotto had a holey defense even back then and May is too
            accurate counter wise for someone who lacks defense.

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              #306
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER
              The drug testing was a simple request from team Mayweather
              to keep the fighters at ease and to know that both were fighting
              on an equal playing field. why can't people just see it like that?
              Taking random blood tests is not a bad thing at all. It was
              the same as Pacquiao wanting Floyd to do the 10MIL weight
              thing. Mosley has nothing to lose because he is at the end
              of his career technically, eventhough he is still a live dog.
              Fact of the matter is, Mosley feels like he has a lot to
              prove in beating May and Pac so if Mosley was to beat Floyd,
              he would jump at the chance to fight Pac without the blood tests
              and I think that is what Pac and roach are banking on. It's too
              obvious that Pacquiao don't want to take the tests but my biggest
              thing is why? Why is it such a big deal? A few drops of blood?
              That right there should be something you would want to do
              with open arms.
              Listen I hear everything your saying my point is there is no proof and no reason for Pac to do what a fighter want's him to do.No?Yea it does look funny and I understand anyone questioning it.But the fact still stand's there IS NO PROOF.All I'm saying is I hate hearing about this drug testing thing everytime Pac's name is mentioned.

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                #307
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                The same Collazo that had a close war with the not fully tested
                Andre Berto at 147? Floyd would spank Collazo.
                Once again like I put in other post Collazo had a long jab and is slick I'm not say he beat's May.But I think he give's him some trouble.

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                  #308
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  Forrest and Winky were/are big and have solid jabs so can see them
                  giving Floyd fits but Cotto? I never thought Cotto was anything
                  special in the ring. Cotto was a mental midget even before Margarito.
                  Take away his punch and pressure and Miguel was easy pickings.
                  I feel technically back then Floyd trumps Cotto and TKO's him.
                  Cotto had a holey defense even back then and May is too
                  accurate counter wise for someone who lacks defense.
                  I think Cotto's punch would have keep May honest.And keep him in the fight before May took over down the second half of the fight.Imho.

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                    #309
                    Originally posted by romebyko
                    Listen I hear everything your saying my point is there is no proof and no reason for Pac to do what a fighter want's him to do.No?Yea it does look funny and I understand anyone questioning it.But the fact still stand's there IS NO PROOF.All I'm saying is I hate hearing about this drug testing thing everytime Pac's name is mentioned.
                    Listen man, it ain't supposed to be about PROOF. It was a request
                    from team Mayweather to take the tests and make sure BOTH were clean
                    coming into the fight. Wasn't like he said ONLY Pac should do it because
                    then you would need proof to put something like that on Pac's head
                    but it was a simple request for BOTH fighters to undergo random
                    testing, so what was the big deal? Manny never said they need proof
                    but instead made up so many excuses on why not to take the tests
                    and that is why people are questioning him. If anything he made himself
                    look worst. Manny Pacquiao don't want to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr
                    because if he did, that fight would have been past tense and I don't
                    care what NO naysayers shout back.
                    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-26-2010, 12:59 PM. Reason: Correction.

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                      #310
                      Originally posted by romebyko
                      I think Cotto's punch would have keep May honest.And keep him in the fight before May took over down the second half of the fight.Imho.
                      Cotto has been wobbled, staggered, bloodied and or beat down
                      in every major fight against guys on or above his level and Floyd
                      is the best hands down. Cotto would have been eating leather
                      and the ref stopping the fight. Cotto supposedly big punch
                      became obselete once his level of comp went up. Mentally and
                      technically Floyd trumps Cotto. I don't care if the fight didn't happen
                      when they were both undefeated because my money would have still
                      went on Floyd. I saw the holes in Cotto's fight game and in my opinion
                      he was tailor made for Floyd.
                      Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-26-2010, 01:00 PM. Reason: Correction.

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