Rewatched Pacquiao vs Clottey ... and

[whirlwind]

If i remember correctly, DLH came in the ring at fight night below 145lbs, probably 141lbs. He did not re-hydrated and was completely out of gas by the 6th round. Do you honestly can say that was Manny's fault? Does it somehow tarnish Manny's win against DLH, some would say yes because of DLH's own doing. But just remember that when this fight was announced at the weight that was agreed upon, people criticized the fight and everyone said that it was a huge mismatch base on DLH size and height. DLH is 5'10 vs Manny at 5'6. So to say that Manny's win over DLH is not good is a bit ridiculous and sour g****s IMO. I can agree that it wasn't great base on DLH's condition, but that's like saying if Mosley beats Floyd because Floyd didn't sleep all night prior to the fight, that Mosley's win is not valid nor is it good. That's just silly and ****** IMO.

For *****s Pac wins against Oscar is not valid but Floyd wins against JMM was legitimate. But then if you look at it closely both fights have some similarities. By then Floyd and Oscar run the show and forced JMM and Pac to move up a few divisions above their normal weight classes back then. The huge difference? While Oscar honored his weight contract agreement with Pac, Floyd did not nothing at all to make weight on their catchweight agreement and tricked/cheated JMM by coming at 147. He then change the weight contract last minutes into their fight in a exchange of more money.
In the end if the *****s think the Pac vs Oscar fight was a catchweight then Floyd vs JMM is what? If my memory serves me right. They agreed to meet at 142 or 144? It doesn't matter anyway, Floyd did not honored their catchweight agreement. He just gave him more money to keep this old lightweight JMM's mouth shut. What a cheater and *****.

[Alibata]

I watched the fight today from O.S.I.R.I.S first thx for that. Manny Pacquiao is an awesome fighter I like his style a lot everytime he fights you see a lot of action even the ladies in the audience go crazie. But I can not agree what Lampley and Steward were saying in the end of the fight. I like Pacquiao but the fact is in his fight he made demands like the catchweight for the Cotto , De la Hoya fight and nobody criticise him for that. I mean he is great but I would not say he is great like Ali,Sugar Ray Robinson , Sugar Ray Leonard, Hagler, Tyson. Manny did not want to fight Mosley, he did not give Marquez a third fight and what is the worst thing is the catchweight. I can imagine that Pacman beat even stop Floyd but I do not accept his demands for his fights every pound 10 Million $ as a sort of punishment for the catchweight clause . Much worse is that nobody mentions that things. Do not get me wrong I love Pacman's fighting style but I just want euquality.What do you guys think of that ?

I did not know Floyd vs. Pac was @ the catchweight of 147... hahaha... All Floyd has to do is his job and make 147.. He can do that easy so why even stress the 10 mil unless he gonna do manny like he did Marquez.

[fenixbb]

remember when cotto was upset because he couldn't eat and his friend and trainer were eating fast food

Yeah I felt sorry for him.

[Reloaded]

What demands did he made for Oscar?

147 or no fight and ODHs former trainer knew he could not make it .

[oc9979]

I did not know Floyd vs. Pac was @ the catchweight of 147... hahaha... All Floyd has to do is his job and make 147.. He can do that easy so why even stress the 10 mil unless he gonna do manny like he did Marquez.

Why request a penalty when the commission will take care of that??

[Reloaded]

For *****s Pac wins against Oscar is not valid but Floyd wins against JMM was legitimate. But then if you look at it closely both fights have some similarities. By then Floyd and Oscar run the show and forced JMM and Pac to move up a few divisions above their normal weight classes back then. The huge difference? While Oscar honored his weight contract agreement with Pac, Floyd did not nothing at all to make weight on their catchweight agreement and tricked/cheated JMM by coming at 147. He then change the weight contract last minutes into their fight in a exchange of more money.
In the end if the *****s think the Pac vs Oscar fight was a catchweight then Floyd vs JMM is what? If my memory serves me right. They agreed to meet at 142 or 144? It doesn't matter anyway, Floyd did not honored their catchweight agreement. He just gave him more money to keep this old lightweight JMM's mouth shut. What a cheater and *****.

Do you have any idea of the advantage of being a little overweight to the disadvantage of being underweight by a lot ,,,, learn boxing and what weight means , JMM was a strong as a bull and a little slower , ODH was a rag doll that was as flat as a tack ,,, it is always better to be over than under .

[Alibata]

Why request a penalty when the commission will take care of that??

A slap on the wrist... Fight might not continue if the weight limit is breached. It is the weight class maximum... More complications if May decides to get an advantage like he did Marquez. The penalty is good for sneaky no principle fighters like Mayweather.

[-EX-]

Pacquiao has a much better resume than Tyson...

[myCoCainE]

I watched the fight today from O.S.I.R.I.S first thx for that. Manny Pacquiao is an awesome fighter I like his style a lot everytime he fights you see a lot of action even the ladies in the audience go crazie. But I can not agree what Lampley and Steward were saying in the end of the fight. I like Pacquiao but the fact is in his fight he made demands like the catchweight for the Cotto , De la Hoya fight and nobody criticise him for that. I mean he is great but I would not say he is great like Ali,Sugar Ray Robinson , Sugar Ray Leonard, Hagler, Tyson. Manny did not want to fight Mosley, he did not give Marquez a third fight and what is the worst thing is the catchweight. I can imagine that Pacman beat even stop Floyd but I do not accept his demands for his fights every pound 10 Million $ as a sort of punishment or the catchweight clause . Much worse is that nobody mentions that things. Do not get me wrong I love Pacman's fighting style but I just want euquality.What do you guys think of that ?

I'll just repeat what everybody have said. The Oscar fight is not a catchweight. It's at 147. Dela Hoya actually made him move two divisions and dela hoya down one away from his previous fight with forbes. He only had one catchweight fight, which is with Cotto. Remember he was gunning for an unprecedented 7 weigth belt so it's pretty obvious they are trying to be cautious as nobody has done that before and they do not know what to expect. Besides, Cotto weighed 146 a fight before. And the reason they are demanding 10 million for every excess weight against Mayweather because Mayweather is a proven cheat. He was supposed to weigh 144 in his last fight with dinamita, but did not even try to lose some during weigh in and instead paid 600,000. Mayweather is known for getting all the advantages he could get and they wanted the fight to be just fair.

[badboypeenoy]

Yes the Mayweather fight is off due to PAC. They could accept 19 days, which is in the middle but they didn't bothered because they already had Clottey in line.

Point is Pacquiao-Mayweather was basically done already until Mayweather threw menkeywrench in the negotiations. Fine, Pacquaio still tried to save the fight by giving in to a 24 day cut-off, still nothing. Remember, Manny is the champ, the #1 P4P and the one coming off the bigger PPV, then all
of a sudden Mayweather's making the demands?

Way I see Mayweather negotiated himself out of the deal. If it wasn't for the earthquake in Haiti, he wouldn't even be touching Mosley with a
ten foot pole.