Rewatched Pacquiao vs Clottey ... and

[John Hue]

I watched the fight today from O.S.I.R.I.S first thx for that. Manny Pacquiao is an awesome fighter I like his style a lot everytime he fights you see a lot of action even the ladies in the audience go crazie. But I can not agree what Lampley and Steward were saying in the end of the fight. I like Pacquiao but the fact is in his fight he made demands like the catchweight for the Cotto , De la Hoya fight and nobody criticise him for that. I mean he is great but I would not say he is great like Ali,Sugar Ray Robinson , Sugar Ray Leonard, Hagler, Tyson. Manny did not want to fight Mosley, he did not give Marquez a third fight and what is the worst thing is the catchweight. I can imagine that Pacman beat even stop Floyd but I do not accept his demands for his fights every pound 10 Million $ as a sort of punishment or the catchweight clause . Much worse is that nobody mentions that things. Do not get me wrong I love Pacman's fighting style but I just want euquality.What do you guys think of that ?

Green Given. Good post and the truth. I like Manny also but agree with the points you made and despite being a Manny fan I can see why people have ???? about him and PEDs. There is no question also that Roach fiddles around with the weight demands etc to stack the deck in his fighter's favour.

[PAKYO]

I almost believed the TS...pwe!

[ModernTalking]

Everything you said is very well said, it all point out to you're gay.

[ModernTalking]

Green Given. Good post and the truth. I like Manny also but agree with the points you made and despite being a Manny fan I can see why people have ???? about him and PEDs. There is no question also that Roach fiddles around with the weight demands etc to stack the deck in his fighter's favour.

So what catch weight are you guys talking about?

[jrosales13]

I just want to know what demands Pac had for Oscar?

[Mike Hawk]

manny is a small guy.....he just got into welterweight....you can say these catchweights are kinda like tuneups to see if he can handle it....cause really...why risk going straight to SSM when you dont even know how welterweight is at all....ODH and Hatton dont count....odh was drained..but thats his damn fault....and that hatton punch was the perfect place at the perfect time....hatton would of still lost but still......after cotto....he proved he could play with the big boys....but...seems like he gets hit more everytime he goes up.....thats gonna take a toll and kinda diminish his primeness....

i agree catchweights are kinda wack and not by the book...but boxing sorta needed to fuel its fire again.....

and at the end of the the day...manny is playing with the big boys....he is on bigger guys' minds.....its almost embarrasing that youre getting silent bullied by a 5'6 135er.....bigger guys are SUPPOSED to beat him. so if they do....cool....people with common sense dont think he's god.....as opposed to his deeper fanboys....its just pride....

[TheBreakdown]

Yeah the de la hoya fight was pretty much negotiated by de la hoya. The terms and everything were set by oscar. It wasn't a cathweight fight neither, it was at 147, the weight Oscar preferred. Manny has only fought 1 catchweight fight, B-hop has liek 3 or 4 of them. Roy Jones has 2 or 3 of them. I don't get why Manny catches so much flak for 1 catchweight fight. Cotto looked to be in the best shape he's ever been in and had no excuses at the end of the fight.

Smh... Wrong *******. They fought at 145 and on fight night odlh came in at 147 and pac came in at 150. Pac weighed more than odlh on fight night

[PAKYO]

I just want to know what demands Pac had for Oscar?

TS can't answer that as he all just made it up or you could say he was browsing some threads here put two and two together, then reckoned the total is three.

Great computation actually.

[ianntheman]

Agree, Roach was the most worried with Cotto, knowing if Cotto trained for 147, he would do serious damage to Manny, even at 145 Cotto gave Manny that coliflower ear. Cotto might have lost but Manny got that scar for life.

at any weight Manny will give Cotto problems if your still butthurt you can watch the fight again and tell me that Cotto isnt on his best damn shape...

[Akinapepemo]

I just want to know what demands Pac had for Oscar?

Unfortunately, TS came from a parallel universe where it was possible to impose demands on boxing's biggest draw, DLH.