Title Defenses: W. Klitschko 13 Lennox Lewis 12

[Pirao]

Depends on whether you count the WBO tin belt or not. A lot of people didn't/don't, because everyone knew who the true champion was.

Of course it counts, Dariusz Michaelzewski (however it's written lol) was undisputed champion with the WBO belt, as were a number of other champions, so of course it counts.

[Mr. Invincible]

In your opinion?

Lewis beat Vitali by 6th round TKO. Nothing to do with opinions, thats a fact

Lennox was losing 4-2 and getting handled. Gift win, in my opinion. Do you have a problem with me having an opinion?

[TheGreatA]

Of course it counts, Dariusz Michaelzewski (however it's written lol) was undisputed champion with the WBO belt, as were a number of other champions, so of course it counts.

You don't take into account that Michalczewski had beaten unified champ Virgil Hill, until having two of his titles stripped off from him for no good reason, which is why he was thought of as the linear champ (although not undisputed with Roy Jones around).

[Mr. Invincible]

How did he lost that in your opinion when he stopped the guy? Is not like it was a gift decision. And, he fought Tyson what a year earlier? Was he coming off a the longest layoff of his career? if not one of the longest? Did he also not weight in at the heaviest of his career?

Now what?

Learn english and I'll revisit making you look ******.

[PensionKiller]

But Tua isn't really that great either, I still don't understand why Tua is so highly rated around here, what did he ever do?

Anyways I like discussing with you, even though you're a little biased at times I can usually have intelligent discussions with you.

That is true he isn't great either. He's had maybe 5 defining fights and lost some lol.

I can't argue with you on that one.

His power, speed and combo though are very potent if he can get you, and I think he could have gotten through to most.

Thank you. Same for you.

I will admit I have bias agenda's, but I do come out with honest opinion and try to bring some facts.

I'm a fan of Pac, Khan and Haye. I'll try my best to defend and bet on them always

I'm actually a fan of Vitali also. What I don;t agree with is the fact that people discredit Lewis for that win. If it had continued, Vitali would have lost his damn eye.

I'm abit erm of a hater on Wlad at times, not ebcause he is a crap fighter because he is technically and athleticall a very good heavyweight. I jusat feel that he gets beat by Lewis, Vitali and the ATG's. Heck Tyson and Holyfield have very good chances too.

I don't like comparing either Klit to Ali though. I feel those type of fighters were the ebst ever. They had to train hard, fought 15 rounds, in difficult environments at times. They had distractions, poverty and Don King to deal with aswell lol. They were powerful, fast, not flat footed.

That's another argument however buddy.

Again, thank you for appreciaitng our discusions and me for you.

[Pirao]

You don't take into account that Michalczewski had beaten unified champ Virgil Hill, until having two of his titles stripped off from him for no good reason, which is why he was thought of as the linear champ (although not undisputed with Roy Jones around).

What does that have to do with Michalczewski being undisputed holding the WBO and two other belts?

[Hitman932]

You don't take into account that Michalczewski had beaten unified champ Virgil Hill, until having two of his titles stripped off from him for no good reason, which is why he was thought of as the linear champ (although not undisputed with Roy Jones around).

Well when Vitali retires and the WBC or the WBA Champ agree to fight Wlad he will have also equaled the accomplishment of being unified undisputed champ. As well as exceeding Lewis # of defenses.

As it stands now David Haye is basically playing the Rid**** Bowe role. Wlad can't force him into the ring and he has defeated most every other fighter of note.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Lennox was losing 4-2 and getting handled. Gift win, in my opinion. Do you have a problem with me having an opinion?

Yes, when it contradicts facts, I do.

How can busting someones face up to the point where the fight has to be stopped be a "gift win"?

[PensionKiller]

Well when Vitali retires and the WBC or the WBA Champ agree to fight Wlad he will have also equaled the accomplishment of being unified undisputed champ. As well as exceeding Lewis # of defenses.

As it stands now David Haye is basically playing the Rid**** Bowe role. Wlad can't force him into the ring and he has defeated most every other fighter of note.

Problem with that is Vitali wants Haye badly.

I think that Vitali has Haye's number, even though I feel Haye can exploit his openess, I don't think he can KO him.

Vitali also has stamina on another level and Haye's alck of chin and stamina will **** him up.

I'll still bet on Haye because it's not real money (although it's harder to get these poitns than real money lol) and I am a Haye fan.

Haye has a better chance of blizzing Wlad with his speed and power. I do look forward to it because I want Haye to back his words and prove the world wrong.

[KILLA RIGHT]

Haha not even close.Lewis is a atg while wlad is the best of the worst