Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Mosley Trade Words Face To Face on HBO

[GRUSTLER]

Pacquiao was proven to have ww power when he koed hatton. When he faced cotto, everyone were wondering about pacquiao's chin and durability at welterweight. he passed it, so we consider him as a ww after the cotto fight, thus he face clottey at the true ww limit. I think pac's chin is very good, except that he gets bruised up too easily at ww.

Pacquiao pounded on David Diaz for 8 rounds and finally
put him out in the next and 9th rd. I think Pacquiao is
an accumilation puncher who puts damage on you
after he keeps connecting. He dropped JMM 4 times
in two fights and they were both still close and debatable.
Hatton just was open for that perfect punch right on the
button.

[Pacquiao'd]

Are you talking about Manny Pacquiao? The same one that
turned down a fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr because of random
blood testing that Shane Mosley is now taking to fight Floyd? and
Andre Berto? The same Andre Berto who has yet to fight a real
threat at WW? Miguel Cotto? The same Cotto who wasn't ready
at 140 for Floyd, only fought for vacant straps all of his career and
even fought for Pwill's WBO title that Paul vacated because he couldn't
get a fight at 147? The title Cotto got for beating Michael "Who"
Jennings? Paul Williams? The same Paul Williams that Sugar Shane Mosley ducked by saying he didn't want none of PWill because their
styles didn't mesh? Antonio Margarito? Now that's a good argument
but I think you can blame Bob Arum for that fight not happening because
the money wasn't right for Floyd. If you don't believe me, check the
sig.

damn you worked him man, you didnt have to go hard on him like that. only if i had green k.

you sonned the **** out of his ass haha

[drudolphreese]

i think most people have their preference of fighters but if you guys would just step back and look at the sport of boxing i think you would see it more clearly. the fact is the two biggest stars in the game today are mainly money fighters and not fighting for greatness. until the round robin of Pac, Floyd and Shane is done, Pac and Floyd has to prove that they are not merely a product of match ups but that they are truly great. i think Shane has proven he will fight the best.

[Tweezy316]

Pacquiao was proven to have ww power when he koed hatton. When he faced cotto, everyone were wondering about pacquiao's chin and durability at welterweight. he passed it, so we consider him as a ww after the cotto fight, thus he face clottey at the true ww limit. I think pac's chin is very good, except that he gets bruised up too easily at ww.

you say he only gets bruised up at ww? hahaha lmao so in the marquez fights he wasn't bruised up at light weight right? you're silly. HE GETS BRUISED UP BECAUSE HE HAS NO DEFENSE!!!!

[Chip Rudd]

Pacquiao pounded on David Diaz for 8 rounds and finally
put him out in the next and 9th rd. I think Pacquiao is
an accumilation puncher who puts damage on you
after he keeps connecting. He dropped JMM 4 times
in two fights and they were both still close and debatable.
Hatton just was open for that perfect punch right on the
button.

Hatton reminds me a lot of Jermain Taylor. Not comparing them skill wise(cause JT is better) but in the way that after they got knocked out the first time they were not the same.

[slick23]

But see, you have to take into consideration the time lines of each
fighter and who was who in the divisions and what fight made sense.
When Floyd went to WW, Judah and Baldomir were the biggest fights
for him PERIOD. Cotto was fighting Mosley when Floyd was fighting
Hatton the next month. You guys act like in the sport of boxing
that the fighters just say, "Hey, I want to fight you. Lets fight"
it doesn't work like that. I hear and read people bringing up fighters
of the old but back then, all the top guys were beasts and had to
fight each other for the spot, now it's different. If you want to
get deep on it, I think Manny Pacquiao's team is one of the biggest
carefully picking match makers in the sport because all of his past
5 fights were meaningless but only for big pay days with the exception
of Hatton (140 champ) Cotto wasn't the man at WW, it was Mosley.
Cotto was carefully picked for Pac. Cotto didn't even want to put his
title on the line and Mosley did AND the fight wasn't even at 147. My
thing is, why keep saying who Floyd ducked cause right now he is
fighting the best at WW and the best guy at WW didn't want to fight
him at WW when he was primed. I wish some of you would just get
off the bull**** and call it how it is.

I agree to most of what you have said, most casual fans either don't remember or don't care about the politics of the sport, which I can understand. Who gives a **** about the leverage Bob Arum is trying to use in his negotiations for his fighters. That said, we have to talk about it when discussing "who is better" May or Pac? Whether we like it or not, like Floyd always says, he is his own promoter, and as a promoter he has to set himself up for the most money possible. I personally believe he lucked out landing Mosley. He really had no where to go after Pac's team said no. So, now he has to save face and promote this fight to the fullest. No way, do I think he ever actually wanted this fight. I'm not saying he's scared, but let's be honest I guarentee he felt that Mosely carried the most risk and too little money. Floyd is nearly as smart outside the ring as inside, more so than people on this site give him credit for, but that is not always characteristic casual fight fans care that much about. Anyway, the **** that's taking place on May 1st should be great.

[RedWhiteBlue]

we know who the best is ... yall keep talking about him in a thread about Mosley and Mayweather ...

clear sign who the p4p king is

[BadBrains]

you say he only gets bruised up at ww? hahaha lmao so in the marquez fights he wasn't bruised up at light weight right? you're silly. HE GETS BRUISED UP BECAUSE HE HAS NO DEFENSE!!!!

How many punches did marquez landed on pacquiao and how many punches did clottey land on pacquiao? Clottey barely landed 100 punches and pacquiao's face was bruised up. Now shut the hell up. You should get an award from floyd.

[BadBrains]

Pacquiao pounded on David Diaz for 8 rounds and finally
put him out in the next and 9th rd. I think Pacquiao is
an accumilation puncher who puts damage on you
after he keeps connecting. He dropped JMM 4 times
in two fights and they were both still close and debatable.
Hatton just was open for that perfect punch right on the
button.

Pacquiao is an accumulation puncher normally and a KO puncher if he throws a punch in a traditional way, meaning twisting your foot and body when you throw a punch. I scored the first JMM fight a draw. Second fight, I scored it as a marquez win.

[GRUSTLER]

it isn't considered ducking when you tell the truth. Cotto and his handlers said he wasn't ready at floyd's level when he was still at 140 and needed time to enhance his skills. On william's case, williams was already out of the weight class by the time cotto fought for it. Quintana beat williams, then cotto fought quintana koing him in 5 rounds, then quintana got koed by williams in 1 round after that. questioning cotto's legitimacy is absolutely ridiculous. for me, cotto was the only one willing to face anybody.

Williams left because he couldn't get a fight with anyone at 147,
including Cotto and he called Cotto out after Paul knocked Quintana
out. I agree that Cotto was/is the last of the throwback fighters
no argument there but if he wasn't on Floyd's level when Floyd
moved up to Cotto's division, then how could Floyd be ducking Cotto,
a guy that needed time to catch up to Floyd? And how come it
wasn't considered ducking when Cotto wasn't ready but it was/is
considered ducking when Floyd opted to search for bigger fights
than Cotto?