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  • Tweezy316
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    #71
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
    My thing is, people say Pac moved up 3 weight classes and dominated
    bigger guys but then say JMM was too small to beat Floyd and it was
    a mismatch? How can they say that when JMM was the only guy to
    give hell to Pacquiao twice? So it's ok for Pac to move up and dominate
    guys bigger than him and that is not considered a mismatch BUT when
    JMM tried to move up against the bigger Floyd, all of sudden Floyd
    cherry picked him? So if Cotto or Clottey would have beaten Manny,
    then they would have been picking on a guy who moved up 3 divisions?
    That's bull****, Floyd just outclassed JMM in every way.
    well said bro.

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    • GRUSTLER
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      #72
      Originally posted by BadBrains
      True, he was the lineal, but he wasn't a threat. Everyone wanted floyd to face margarito, or shane, but i give him a pass again since he moved up to face DLH, then went back down, brought hatton up in weight and after that, everyone wanted him to face Margarito, cotto, or williams, but he chose to retire.
      I believe that Floyd had a rematch with with Oscar De La Hoya
      at 147 he opted not to take because De La Hoya wanted the
      same split as before when Mayweather won the last fight.
      We all or sould know that Floyd needed time to heal. My thing
      is that, if Floyd ducked Williams, then so did Cotto, who fought
      for Williams vacant strap instead of fighting Paul for it and Mosley
      said he didn't want to fight Paul either. Also Cotto ducked Floyd
      at 140. Like I said, the door swings both ways.

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      • SusieQ.
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        #73
        Originally posted by solly6
        He is one of the most unintelligent people I have ever seen in front of a camera. A real reporter could ruin him so easily in one interview. He's just to dumb. He contradicts himself all the time and always says the same ****.
        that is exactly what i always say. its true. ive never heard anyone contradict themselves so much in my life. its almost comical. hes ***in thick as ****. btw before certain ******s start sayin yeah well pac this n pac that..i dont like pacquiao.

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        • BadBrains
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          #74
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER
          My thing is, people say Pac moved up 3 weight classes and dominated
          bigger guys but then say JMM was too small to beat Floyd and it was
          a mismatch? How can they say that when JMM was the only guy to
          give hell to Pacquiao twice? So it's ok for Pac to move up and dominate
          guys bigger than him and that is not considered a mismatch BUT when
          JMM tried to move up against the bigger Floyd, all of sudden Floyd
          cherry picked him? So if Cotto or Clottey would have beaten Manny,
          then they would have been picking on a guy who moved up 3 divisions?
          That's bull****, Floyd just outclassed JMM in every way.
          Pacquiao was proven to have ww power when he koed hatton. When he faced cotto, everyone were wondering about pacquiao's chin and durability at welterweight. he passed it, so we consider him as a ww after the cotto fight, thus he face clottey at the true ww limit. I think pac's chin is very good, except that he gets bruised up too easily at ww.

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          • GRUSTLER
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            #75
            Originally posted by BadBrains
            some people carry their power and speed while moving up in weight. marquez didnt. floyd and pac did. I'm including floyd since he did the same damn s**t. It depends on the style and their body.
            Honestly, that sounds like an excuse to give one a pass and not the
            other.

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            • Tweezy316
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              #76
              Originally posted by BadBrains
              True, he was the lineal, but he wasn't a threat. Everyone wanted floyd to face margarito, or shane, but i give him a pass again since he moved up to face DLH, then went back down, brought hatton up in weight and after that, everyone wanted him to face Margarito, cotto, or williams, but he chose to retire.
              Ok so when everyone wanted pacquiao to fight Mayweather did he sign the contract? NO. When Mosley begged him for a fight last year (a fight that everyone seems to think will be better than a fight with floyd) did he take the fight? NO. And now that Clottey is out of the way all that remains is tough fights for Pacquiao and what is he planning on doing? There have been talks of retirement, talks of fight Valero, Margarito. haha this is not what they people want but this is what team pacquiao is talking about. you're just a hater

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              • Chip Rudd
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                #77
                The only difference between Pac and JMM moving up is that Pac was able to keep speed and power and JMM wasn't. Pac continued to win while JMM unfortunately ran into Floyd and we all know how that went. Nobody was saying that Cotto was cherry picking when he fought Pac, so why say Floyd is when he fought JMM after a 2 year layoff. We all know it was a tune up fight.

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                • BadBrains
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  I believe that Floyd had a rematch with with Oscar De La Hoya
                  at 147 he opted not to take because De La Hoya wanted the
                  same split as before when Mayweather won the last fight.
                  We all or sould know that Floyd needed time to heal. My thing
                  is that, if Floyd ducked Williams, then so did Cotto, who fought
                  for Williams vacant strap instead of fighting Paul for it and Mosley
                  said he didn't want to fight Paul either. Also Cotto ducked Floyd
                  at 140. Like I said, the door swings both ways.
                  it isn't considered ducking when you tell the truth. Cotto and his handlers said he wasn't ready at floyd's level when he was still at 140 and needed time to enhance his skills. On william's case, williams was already out of the weight class by the time cotto fought for it. Quintana beat williams, then cotto fought quintana koing him in 5 rounds, then quintana got koed by williams in 1 round after that. questioning cotto's legitimacy is absolutely ridiculous. for me, cotto was the only one willing to face anybody.
                  Last edited by BadBrains; 03-21-2010, 04:47 PM.

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                  • BadBrains
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                    Honestly, that sounds like an excuse to give one a pass and not the
                    other.
                    Theres a reason why some people win more belts in more weight classes than others. Style and their body. As I've said, marquez was already sluggish at lightweight. And to further why everyone even downgrades floyd is that he failed to ko marquez when he was landing at a very high percentage. I don't since I know that floyd's style aint about KOing people.

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                    • Chip Rudd
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by BadBrains
                      it isn't considered ducking when you tell the truth. Cotto and his handlers said he wasn't ready at floyd's level when he was still at 140 and needed time to enhance his skills. On william's case, williams was already out of the weight class by the time cotto fought for it. Quintana beat williams, then cotto fought quintana koing him in 5 rounds, then quintana got koed by williams in 1 round after that. questioning cotto's legitimacy is absolutely ridictulous. for me, cotto was the only one willing to face anybody.
                      Yeah, I love Cotto for that. Although he didn't fight PW he fought everyone he could. Man, I hate what Margarito did to him. Cotto was a beast.

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