What do you think Ali would do against a klitschko?

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  • BoxingFanFirst
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    #201
    Originally posted by Mikhnienko
    No yours is.

    I have no problem with someone saying that they favour Ali but to act like the Klitschko's or any top HW's from any era wouldn't be able to compete is foolish.

    Ali is hurt by sub 190lb cooper & Jones and loses to Frazier & Norton and it's unreasonable to think that any all time hard hitter like Dempsey, Marciano, Louis, Klitschko, Lewis wouldn't be able to possibly hurt him?

    Anyone saying that any top HW from any era wouldn't be able to compete vs Ali because he's a 'invincible boxing god" is a dumbass.

    Dempsey Marciano Louis Tunney Holmes Klitschko's Bowe Holyfield Lewis would all be able to compete and possibly win vs any top 70's HW. I can't respect anyone who acts as if Ali, Foreman, Frazier are on some different level.

    And just to give you something to ***** about how about this. Foreman went life and death vs Ron Lyle, i think Vladimir Virchis is a bigger (6'5 250) version of Lyle with a heavier punch and better chin. Virchis would do just as good, probably better & have a very good chance to beat him. Flame away.
    Do yourself a favor, and watch Ali pre vietnam mess, and tell me any HW ever could touch him.. BTW. Wlad was ko'd by bums like Lamon Brewster, Corrie Sanders, and Ross Puritty. Ali was never stopped.

    All you can judge someone off of is who they have beat in the era they were in. Ali was in the toughest HW divison in the history of boxing, and owned it for 15 years. He's not called the greatest for no reason. Study up on boxing history, and quit nuthugging your klit sister idols.

    When arguably your best win is against Chris Byrd... Ouch.

    Btw. Ali had one of the greatest chins ever. Hurt by cooper? So what. one example early in his career.

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    • Mikhnienko
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      #202
      Originally posted by Bulge
      Do yourself a favor, and watch Ali pre vietnam mess, and tell me any HW ever could touch him.. BTW. Wlad was ko'd by bums like Lamon Brewster, Corrie Sanders, and Ross Puritty. Ali was never stopped.

      All you can judge someone off of is who they have beat in the era they were in. Ali was in the toughest HW divison in the history of boxing, and owned it for 15 years. He's not called the greatest for no reason. Study up on boxing history, and quit nuthugging your klit sister idols.

      When arguably your best win is against Chris Byrd... Ouch.
      "Ali is the greatest, no HW in history could have touched him. Since this is my opinion that means that i'm knowledgeable about boxing history."

      Pre-Vietnam who could compete with him?

      Dempsey, Langford, Tunney, Louis, Marciano, Sharkey, Charles, Walcott, Patterson, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, both Klitschko's, Tyson, Golota

      Sharkey, Bowe, Golota were all inconsistant but all prime and operating at 100% yes.

      How is that for starters?

      btw what does Cooper hurting Ali prove? Well a sub 190 Cooper in '66 and sub 190lb Jones in 63' dropping Ali in the exact time period that you're saying he was untouchable shows that any of the above named guys could have done far worse with their punching power alone.
      Last edited by Mikhnienko; 03-21-2010, 03:19 AM.

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        #203
        Originally posted by Mikhnienko
        "Ali is the greatest, no HW in history could have touched him. Since this is my opinion that means that i'm knowledgeable about boxing history."

        Pre-Vietnam who could compete with him?

        Dempsey, Langford, Tunney, Louis, Marciano, Sharkey, Charles, Walcott, Patterson, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, both Klitschko's, Tyson, Golota

        Sharkey, Bowe, Golota were all inconsistant but all prime and operating at 100% yes.

        How is that for starters?
        So Ali wasn't the best HW ever? All those guys would beat him on any give day? Dude.. Give me a break. It's so obvious you have never watched any of his fights.

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        • RayLeonard82
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          #204
          Prime Ali didnt take Bert Cooper seriously and got caught. Against a bigger puncher he would take them more serious and be more defensive minded of there power. I was not impressed with Wlad yesterday to the point where he beats prime Ali. Who the Heck is Chambers? Mike Tyson of 1987 would have put Chambers to sleep in 1 round. So that means Prime Tyson beats Ali also.

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          • Mikhnienko
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            #205
            Originally posted by Bulge
            So Ali wasn't the best HW ever? All those guys would beat him on any give day? Dude.. Give me a break. It's so obvious you have never watched any of his fights.
            lol right.

            Do i think that all of the above named at their best could compete and possibly beat Ali at his best, yes. Top HW's from any era are comparable.

            You're the one calling people ****** and acting as if Ali is on another planet and the thought of any other mortal possibly being able to compete is some absurd notion.

            Anyone looking at our exchanges can see who the dumbass is.

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            • SonOfCuba
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              #206
              Ali to smart and way to fast.

              Not an easy fight but a win for ali

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #207
                Ali had the legs to make Wlad look silly. Cut it out yall. This is a mismatch.

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                • Steelhammer2011
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by elephant man
                  185lb Cooper put Ali on his ass,Is it ****** to actually believe 250lb giants Wlad & Vitali couldnt do the same? really?
                  Either Klitschko beats Ali.

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                  • BarrySlisk
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                    #209
                    I think Ali would get KOed.

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                    • Calilloyd
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                      right. So saying that Ali lost round 1 and 2, and therefore the fight, is wrong how exactly?

                      If you say otherwise then you're the dumbass who is as unbias as the ****** American announcer who is crediting Ali for punches that aren't even landing.
                      Ali didn't lose any rounds in that Olympic fight. And you're the only person in history that I know of ignorant enough to think that. Are you still confused? Your real problem is that the judges were not corrupt enough to steal the fight from Ali. You probably think Roy Jones lost his Olympic gold medal fight too. Your racist way of thinking is just like Carnivores with your belief that black fighters never win decisions legitimately against white fighters.. Even in fights as clear as Ali's gold medal fight.
                      Last edited by Calilloyd; 03-21-2010, 11:24 AM.

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