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  • Originally posted by mikemurni View Post
    700K are very impressive numbers considering that it was just Pac's name that carried the promotion plus there was hardly any help from HBO in hyping the fight. There was no 24/7, and the fact had to be made almost in the last minute due to the fallout of the Pac/May negotiations and Pac's intention to run for congress. Although the fight being staged in the Dallas Stadium did help. Factor in that the fight sold 50K tickets then it validates Pac being a crossover star.

    It guarantees Pac at least another 20 Million payday since he will be receiving 90% of the PPV revenue, share of the gate, and TV rights to world wide broadcast of the fight.

    It does raise a possibility that Pac might not need Floyd after all. I mean the fans want to see a Floyd/Pac of course, that is why they will try to negotiate.
    But as far Team Pac's or Top Rank's they can still make ****loads of money without putting up with Floyds antics so expect them not try so hard as the last time. I am not sure if this is good or bad though..
    I don't know about "very impressive." I mean it's a good showing and yeah Pacquiao made a lot of money. Good for him and his fan base.

    BUT it was a boring fight. It was a horrible undercard and it definitely didn't make any new people any more willing to shell out $50 to watch him fight unless he's fighting someone people think has the opportunity to beat him.

    The general consensus heading into the fight was that it'd get 45,000 people and about 750,000 buys. That's roughly what it did. So, it did what was expected...which is good. But miss me with all this "Pac might not need Floyd" business. What if Mayweather-Mosley does 2+ mil buys? What if Mayweather-Pacquiao has the potential to do 5+ mil buys?

    Eventually people are going to get tired of watching Pacquiao in one-sided fights that have no suspense. Pacquiao's appeal used to be that he fought so many thrilling wars. His fights aren't thrilling anymore. A fight with Mayweather would be epic. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao need each other regardless of how well they do without each other. To convince yourself otherwise'd be foolish.

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    • Originally posted by The Hate Giver View Post
      if you were being accused of **** in america (pac being accused of being a steroid user) by a crazy scared paranoid b*tch (floyd mayweather & company), you go to court & is found innocent, the crazy b*tch takes a **** test & fails (pacquiao has passed all steroid tests required by your sport & there isnt a single shred of evidence that pac is roiding or connected to steroid use), would you still jump through hoops & be dictated to by that person?

      I know i wont & i know pac wont.
      If your innocent then accusations and verbal abuse means
      nothing because to me it would be strictly business. I never
      believed or thought Pacquiao was on anything. I just thought
      that he was training hard and fighting his heart out, never
      paid Floyd Sr any mind UNTIL Pacquiao started making up
      excuses on why not to take the tests, each one being a
      different reason. Like I said, if Pac was really offended then
      he would not still be talking about or wanting a fight with
      Floyd considering Floyd is not backing off his random tests
      demands because unlike Pac, there are boxers/fighters that
      have no problem taking the tests for a chance at beating
      Floyd, getting exposure and mega $ and to me that makes
      more sense then not taking them. That's just my opinion
      though and you have yours so we can agree to disagree.

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      • Originally posted by javelin_fangs View Post
        I don't know about "very impressive." I mean it's a good showing and yeah Pacquiao made a lot of money. Good for him and his fan base.

        BUT it was a boring fight. It was a horrible undercard and it definitely didn't make any new people any more willing to shell out $50 to watch him fight unless he's fighting someone people think has the opportunity to beat him.

        The general consensus heading into the fight was that it'd get 45,000 people and about 750,000 buys. That's roughly what it did. So, it did what was expected...which is good. But miss me with all this "Pac might not need Floyd" business. What if Mayweather-Mosley does 2+ mil buys? What if Mayweather-Pacquiao has the potential to do 5+ mil buys?

        Eventually people are going to get tired of watching Pacquiao in one-sided fights that have no suspense. Pacquiao's appeal used to be that he fought so many thrilling wars. His fights aren't thrilling anymore. A fight with Mayweather would be epic. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao need each other regardless of how well they do without each other. To convince yourself otherwise'd be foolish.
        I think it is very impressive numbers.. the Hatton-Pac fight did 850K buys and that had a 24/7. He will definitely get more money in this fight than what he got against Hatton. The truth is the fight wasn't as exciting because the overly defensive style of Clottey which made it look boring.. But if you put a fighter say like a Margarito, then you have a good fight. Forget about the controversy surrounding Pac(alleged steroid use), and Margarito (hand wraps) you will still get a great action type fight that is typical in every Pac fight. And if they do this dance again in the Dallas stadium then you will have a great atmosphere with Mexicans, Filipino, and casual sports fans in the arena.

        As far as Floyd and Mosley, let them make the 2M PPV buys first.. Lets not jump to conclusion.. And I am sure if they did reach that number, then Top Rank will be force to negotiate but they will definitely not accept anything less than 50%, and they will not agree in full terms as far as the testing is concern. Whether it is good or bad, it doesnt matter because they already taken a position on this issue. They might compromise a little but probably only half way and will not agree fully on Floyd's term.. There is just too much history and ego between the two camps and the personality involved...

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        • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          When Mosley/Mayweather Jr #'s come back there is
          no way Floyd will accept 50/50 if he gets by Mosley
          and Pac wants the fight. HELL, I don't even think
          Mosley will settle for 50/50. 700K is an alright number
          but considering all the hype and publicity Manny gets
          you would figure that he would do more with the hype
          of the Cowboy stadium.
          700k is probably more than Mayweather would have got against Clottey.

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          • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
            700k is probably more than Mayweather would have got against Clottey.
            It doesn't matter. Floyd can still use that as leverage against him if his fight with Mosley does better which is why Pac is simple minded for even fighting Clottey in the first place.

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            • I gotta admit, as a hardcore Pac fan, I wasn't too excited about this fight. It turned out EXACTLY how I thought it would. Very good number for a one man show. Nice job Pac!

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              • Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
                He said it did as well as Pacquiao-Hatton, didn't that do 850,000 buys?

                Either way, Everyone involved with 'The Event' is laughing all the way to the bank- 51,000 fans bought tickets (and expensive parking + concessions), a minimum of 700,000 buys w/ limited promotions, put the whole thing together in limited time, and one fighter the public has never heard of.
                I thought tickets were cheap? Dirt cheap, in fact, for a high-profile boxing event.



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                • Originally posted by Iceta Lives View Post
                  It doesn't matter. Floyd can still use that as leverage against him if his fight with Mosley does better which is why Pac is simple minded for even fighting Clottey in the first place.
                  Was he just supposed to sit on the sidelines twiddling his thumbs? Clottey was by far the highest rated Welterweight available to fight Pacquiao at the time the fight was made. And at that time, Mayweather was talking about fight either Malignaggi or Matthew Hatton, not Mosley.

                  Of course the Mosley fight will do better, but that's because of who he's fighting, not because he's a bigger draw. You may as well pretend that Pac-Cotto did better than May-JMM because Pac is a bigger draw than Floyd. Such simple-minded apples and pears comparisons are an insult to the intelligence of anyone with a brain.

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                  • Originally posted by S A M U R A I View Post
                    I thought tickets were cheap? Dirt cheap, in fact, for a high-profile boxing event.
                    Standing tickets were cheap, but decent seats were expensive, or just as expensive as at most fights outside Las Vagas, anyway. I don't remember the exact amounts, but ringside seats were several hundred dollars each.

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                    • Originally posted by Mr Reality View Post
                      Pacquiao is a great fighter but is not a top 10 ATG like some posters proclaim. He made a name of himself at featherweight against fighters that were past their prime like Morales & Barrera. The funny thing is that he lost to a past his prime Morales. *******s will say he beat Barrera, but the truth is Barerra had surgery to correct blood vessels in his brain three weeks before the fight. Barrerra was clearly not the same fighter as in previous fights which was evident by his lack of power, quicnkness and reflexes.
                      Now comes a guy that is older than Pacquiao yet not past his prime in Juan Manuel Marquez. In these fights Pacquiao showed his biggest weakness as a fighter due to his inablility to change gameplans and adapt to the fighter that counterpunced him and timed his offensive attack. Pacquioa surprised Marquez in the first round with his strength and speed, unfortunately that was his best round of his two fights with Marquez. After the first round of Marquez vs Pacquiao I, Marquez clearly outboxed and out hit Pacquiao including power shots the remaining 23 rounds. Yes Pacquiao had one or two big rounds after this, but that amounts to three rounds out of 24 rounds. The truth is that in the second fight in which Pacquiao was given a gift that amounted to the Super Featherweight title, just about all the respected fight analysts gave the fight to Marquez. Heck even Philipino fans & fight analysts and the Philipino fighter (nonito donaire) gave the fight to Marquez.

                      This is when the BS started, all the cherry picking, weight draining BS hyping crap. Yet no Mosely, Mayweather or slick fighters, not even Marquez. I bet you that Pacquioa pees in his underwear when he dreams of Marquez after the devastating body shots and counterpunches to the face.

                      At Lightweight he fought David Diaz, another belt Whoppee. The guy is the best, he fights the best...........yeah right.

                      BS fight with ODLH.

                      Two fighters that were KO'd and lost for the first time (Hattton & Cotto). These were top fighters according to Pac fans. Not true, these guys were a shell of their past glory and on a downward trajectory after brutal losses.

                      Clottey. I won't even comment. What a farce.

                      ATG...............please.
                      I wish you could understand what a low-quality, trolling poster you actually are, Mr. Negativity.



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