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Seems only one set of fans on NSB are for Non-testing.
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Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya View PostYeah that's what i said, but didn't you read my next post telling the TS that that message was not for him or his thread, but for people who have flawed logic?
And i thought i apologized if these seemed trolling to you guys?Geezz..
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Nothing against the TS but you should have just plain said its the Pac fans who wants no testing and Mayweather fans wants testing.
NSAC and other state commisions have had drug testing before. Now as far as blood testing, well i posted about an LA Times article in here and seems nobody bother to read it. In that article, it is not even 100 percent proof that it wil catch a fighter on PED or HGH.
As far as Mayweather on Pac, PBF has always have a big ego. He want it his ways. PBF has never demanded a blood test before against his past fights. And before the Cotto fight, he never mention Pac is into "something". When only the Pac-Mayweather fight was in the talk last december that now PBF is saying Pac is taking that "something".
Pac's non training weight is around 150 or 160 something, even when he was a jr. lightweight. Pac's fight night weight the last 4 fights at 130-135 divisions was 145-148. So Pac was loosing 20 or more pounds to reach the jr. lw and lw divisions and gaining 15 pounds or more at fight night. So when Pac fought Oscar at 147, it was no problem for him to make 147, which he came in at official weigh in of142, 5 pounds under. And his fight night weight was 148, the same weight in his last 2-3 fights before Oscar. Against Hatton, official weigh in was 138 and same fight night weight of 148.
Against Cotto, Pac was 144 and fight night weight of 149(according to 1 story). On the Clottey fight he was 145. And there were no fight night weight but seems that he is around but 1 story again said he was 149.
Some say that is imposibble for Pac to be that good at 147 when he started at 106. Well, Mayweather won his first golden glove at 106.
Pac has retain his speed just like how Roy Jones at heavyweight against Ruiz and Mayweather against Dela Hoya. Pac as reported by the media, is a "monster" when training.
Now if Pac agreed to all the random testing, i bet you that Mayweather will DEMAND something again.l That is how PBF is.
As far as the testing, it will be both blood and urine. Both tests combine about 15-20 testings. That is too much.
So, as far as Pac is on PED or HGH, you need more proof than what the Mayweathers said.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostLegalizing steroids in boxing would bring the sport to an end.
Its laughable to even suggest we should legalise it to accomodate everyone, Its laughable to even think a sport fan would think that would be a solution, When the day comes when that happens then we might just give up.
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Originally posted by loui_ludwig View PostNothing against the TS but you should have just plain said its the Pac fans who wants no testing and Mayweather fans wants testing.
NSAC and other state commisions have had drug testing before. Now as far as blood testing, well i posted about an LA Times article in here and seems nobody bother to read it. In that article, it is not even 100 percent proof that it wil catch a fighter on PED or HGH.
As far as Mayweather on Pac, PBF has always have a big ego. He want it his ways. PBF has never demanded a blood test before against his past fights. And before the Cotto fight, he never mention Pac is into "something". When only the Pac-Mayweather fight was in the talk last december that now PBF is saying Pac is taking that "something".
Pac's non training weight is around 150 or 160 something, even when he was a jr. lightweight. Pac's fight night weight the last 4 fights at 130-135 divisions was 145-148. So Pac was loosing 20 or more pounds to reach the jr. lw and lw divisions and gaining 15 pounds or more at fight night. So when Pac fought Oscar at 147, it was no problem for him to make 147, which he came in at official weigh in of142, 5 pounds under. And his fight night weight was 148, the same weight in his last 2-3 fights before Oscar. Against Hatton, official weigh in was 138 and same fight night weight of 148.
Against Cotto, Pac was 144 and fight night weight of 149(according to 1 story). On the Clottey fight he was 145. And there were no fight night weight but seems that he is around but 1 story again said he was 149.
Some say that is imposibble for Pac to be that good at 147 when he started at 106. Well, Mayweather won his first golden glove at 106.
Pac has retain his speed just like how Roy Jones at heavyweight against Ruiz and Mayweather against Dela Hoya. Pac as reported by the media, is a "monster" when training.
Now if Pac agreed to all the random testing, i bet you that Mayweather will DEMAND something again.l That is how PBF is.
As far as the testing, it will be both blood and urine. Both tests combine about 15-20 testings. That is too much.
So, as far as Pac is on PED or HGH, you need more proof than what the Mayweathers said.
Are you for test or not? Am putting all boxing fans in one boat but if they want to segregate themselves fine, If you are for better testing great if not STFU no disrespect intended.. I couldnt careless which particular fan people think am referring to to be honest, I really dont care who trains the hardest or not, If people are against testing for whatever reason thats their business, Just dont call others who want better drug testing names for wanting it..
Like i said so many times in my thread this isnt about Pacquiao or Mayweather but more about "Boxing fans" attitude.
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostI wouldnt mind also hearing how exactly the testing is "better". I read that they've never even caught anyone on HGH using Olympic Testing. Basically you're just buying into whatever is fed to you by Mayweather and his lackeys feed you. It was never an issue before because you just "assumed" the testing was ok. Now you're just "assuming" its inadequate.
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