Where does Wladimir Klitschko rank anong the all time HWs?

[Flab]

exactly. my point isn't that wlad is necessarily greater than lewis but the point is if you're going to debase someone's career on 1 spurious notion (having a glass chin) and then not count them in the top 10 when there is a fighter that has a much worse chin that IS in your top 10 (lewis) then you obviously have an agenda to grind as that other guy obviously did and must simply hate the klitschkos for his own personal racial bias/prejudice.

Wlad has never been KO'd, has always gotten up, and once was tripped by the ref then strangely waived off (in the Brewster fight). Lewis on the other hand got brutally KTFO with one punch from two complete bums.

Lewis was knocked out once. He was out of shape and didn't acclimatize to the African heat.

His loss againts McCall was againts the ref. The vid is right there, you should of watched it.

[The Hammer]

I think most people have Wlad at least in the top 25.

And only the haters and racists have him below the top 50.

[DARKSEID]

Well's he's dominating a dead division atm so can't really say.

And I can't help but wonder where he and his brother would be if they didn't have their size.

[Khalid X]

@carnivore.....

I honestly have Vitali rated higher than Wlad. Also I'm a huge Vitali fan, but I can't understand why he didn't fight Dimitrenko.... especially since he is available, mentioned he wanted the fight in December, and is a fellow Ukrainian.

That fight is much better than Vitali's next fight and would be huge if they hailed it Germany. Do you have any idea why that fight didn't happen?

[The Hammer]

Well's he's dominating a dead division atm so can't really say.

And I can't help but wonder where he and his brother would be if they didn't have their size.

Size is nothing without athleticism. Watch Chagaev vs. Valuev.

The Klitschkos are the most athletic big men in the history of boxing. Compare them to Marcellus Brown, Michael Grant, Tye Fields, Julius Long, Lance Whitaker, Ray Austin, Jameel McCline, etc.

[#1Assassin]

i voted 15. tbh im not sure he is but saying 25 just seems a bit unfair. hes probably at around 17-18 on my list, and hell be 15 soon so i voted 15.

[The Hammer]

So far 72% put Wlad in the top 25% or higher.

[The Hammer]

This win should enhance Wlad's legacy.

Chambers is in his prime, 35-1, and has never been down in a fight. The size difference was greater between Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson:

Lewis: about 6'5.5", reach 84", arm length 29.5"

Wlad: just under 6'6", reach 81", arm length 26"

Chambers: 6'1", reach 75"

Tyson: 5'11", reach 71"

Tyson was shot and he'd been stopped before, Chambers is at his peak and has never been down.

[Bennett]

based on his record, top 3 probaly #1. based on his opposition and skills, top 10.

[The Hammer]

@carnivore.....

I honestly have Vitali rated higher than Wlad. Also I'm a huge Vitali fan, but I can't understand why he didn't fight Dimitrenko.... especially since he is available, mentioned he wanted the fight in December, and is a fellow Ukrainian.

That fight is much better than Vitali's next fight and would be huge if they hailed it Germany. Do you have any idea why that fight didn't happen?

You know, if Dimitrenko had just been given a warm-up fight or two by Universum, Vitali would have fought him instead of Sosnowski. But coming off the loss to Chambers, it wouldn't look good.

Sosnowski is the European heavyweight champion. Dimitrenko might have had that title, except his promoter Kohl has kept him inactive.