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US Anti-Doping Agency: "A positive test for Shane or Floyd means a 2 year BAN!"

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  • #81
    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

    I would also suggest it is being used as public pressure to try and force Manny into accepting their terms seeing as Golden boy and Floyd would be co promoting the event.
    Its simply to deter any cheating. A 2 year ban is beyond serious.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
      Its simply to deter any cheating. A 2 year ban is beyond serious.

      It cannot deter anything if they have no authority my man. They only thing it can do is expose a fighter as a cheater. There are no other consequences they can realistically hand out without being officially affiliated with the state commission where the fight is being held or the boxing organization sanctioning the fight. This to me is a publicity stunt to try and embarrass Pacquiao and force his hand.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
        The USADA has no power to ban them from boxing. They're an independant testing firm with no ties to boxing or its currant rules. Should that change in the future they might somehow have the authority to levy such consequences. Till that time they are powerless to do anything except administer private testing.
        Agreed, but what i am thinking is that being that the USADA is an independent agency and doesn't have the authority to ban them, there has to be a clause in the contract that if they get caught they have to willingly forfeit their boxing license for 2 years, so once they sign that dotted line to be tested by USADA, they are adhering to this binding contract and if they test positive they knew before hand that have to give up their boxing license for the two years. That would definitely hold up in court or any legal battle and wouldn't need the approval of the boxing commission.

        Hope to see more info on this come out, but what i stated above is a way around needing the boxing commission's approval for a two year ban.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          It cannot deter anything if they have no authority my man. They only thing it can do is expose a fighter as a cheater. There are no other consequences they can realistically hand out without being officially affiliated with the state commission where the fight is being held or the boxing organization sanctioning the fight. This to me is a publicity stunt to try and embarrass Pacquiao and force his hand.
          I understand where your coming from but the ban is real and its in the contract. They breach that you give up your license for 2 years.

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          • #85
            [QUOTE]
            Originally posted by Sweetxyience View Post
            I agree with you man but one thing i don't agree with is that Cowboys **** haha

            NOW we can't be friends!!

            it doesn't tarnish the sport..its the American Bias of MONEY MONEY MONEY.. well he turned down 50 mill he must be taking something...Is money worth more than your PRIDE?[/QUOTE
            ]

            Pac, take the damn test and quit ducking Floyd!!!

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            • #86
              They might just leave the results confidential until after the fight...

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              • #87
                Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                I understand where your coming from but the ban is real and its in the contract. They breach that you give up your license for 2 years.

                That is not a ban my friend. Its a voluntary agreement to leave the sport for two years. At anytime though, if one were to get caught cheating, that fighter could come back and fight because it has no ties to commissions or organizations. Basically it is meaningless. The more I think about it the more I believe this is a PR move to put pressure on Pacquiao. That is only an opinion of course.

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                • #88
                  That is not a ban my friend. Its a voluntary agreement to leave the sport for two years. At anytime though, if one were to get caught cheating, that fighter could come back and fight because it has no ties to commissions or organizations. Basically it is meaningless. The more I think about it the more I believe this is a PR move to put pressure on Pacquiao. That is only an opinion of course.
                  If they agree to something, it becomes a contract. The law can step in and prevent the individual from boxing.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                    That is not a ban my friend. Its a voluntary agreement to leave the sport for two years. At anytime though, if one were to get caught cheating, that fighter could come back and fight because it has no ties to commissions or organizations. Basically it is meaningless. The more I think about it the more I believe this is a PR move to put pressure on Pacquiao. That is only an opinion of course.
                    Well theres only way to find out.....lol

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                      That is not a ban my friend. Its a voluntary agreement to leave the sport for two years. At anytime though, if one were to get caught cheating, that fighter could come back and fight because it has no ties to commissions or organizations. Basically it is meaningless. The more I think about it the more I believe this is a PR move to put pressure on Pacquiao. That is only an opinion of course.
                      You make some good points even though i disagree with you but if they agreed to this in the contract willingly and were not forced to sign it e.g someone putting a gun to their head to agree to the terms it can and would be upheld in court if they tried to breach it by continue boxing even though banned. I don't think its a PR stunt at all, what i think happened is that he had a reasonable su****ion requested the tests and the way in which pac and his team came up with different lies and excuses after excuses which were debunked caused him to be more persistent in wanting the testing.

                      Its like Pac requesting that Floyd pay the 10 million per pound over the weight limit. As crazy as that penalty sounds the only credible reason why mayweather would back out and come up with ridiculous excuses for not agreeing to those terms is if he in fact was planning on coming in the fight overweight. If not then the stipulation as crazy as it sounds shouldn't be a problem. Thats just my logical way of looking at it, i understand that not everyone is going to think that way which is ok.

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