Why Does Manny Get a Pass for Cherry Picking Opponents?

[Khalid X]

Barrera had been through two hellacious wars with Morales by the time of his first fight with Pac. He was never the same after that.

I can't let you get away with this reply...lol

MAB beat three future HOF including Morales and look better than he ever did prior to facing Pacquiao. This along with other things, is why I say his win over MAB is his best win.

To say Barrera was never the same is foolish simply due to the fact that he dominated some Hamed, Ayala, Tapia, Kelley and several other top fighters shortly after.

[shogunn]

Who says I'm a Floyd fan? This thread has nothing to do with Floyd.

He should have fought Zahir Raheem. By the team he'd gotten back to fighting Morales, Morales was shot, and had been coming off a loss where he was completely dominated by Zahir.

Is Zahir not a journeyman or rather gatekeeper? His career was less than stellar.

At the end of the Raheem-Morales fight, even the commentators were mentioning how Pac wouldn't fight Raheem, and would likely avoid the fight. Sure enough...

You see, in reference to Cotto-Mosely, the excuse for ducking Mosely is that Mosely lost to Cotto. Same exact situation with Raheem-Morales, except Pac chose not to fight the winner of that bout. So which is it?

Shouldve fought Raheem? a journeyman by your standards? So now Manny is being accused of ducking journeyman?

Who else were journeyman, cotto, MAB, Hatton, Clottey.

And now youre also telling us Manny shouldlnt have avenged his loss. Did you know there was a rematch clause in their first bout. So instead of fighting Raheem, manny fought through the likes of hatton, clottey, and cotto, but youre crying about Raheem. Nitpick much?

[Hannibal Barca]

I can't let you get away with this reply...lol

MAB beat three future HOF including Morales and look better than he ever did prior to facing Pacquiao. This along with other things, is why I say his win over MAB is his best win.

To say Barrera was never the same is foolish simply due to the fact that he dominated some Hamed, Ayala, Tapia, Kelley and several other top fighters shortly after.

I give Pac credit for his fight with MAB.

[-Rab]

I can't let you get away with this reply...lol

MAB beat three future HOF including Morales and look better than he ever did prior to facing Pacquiao. This along with other things, is why I say his win over MAB is his best win.

To say Barrera was never the same is foolish simply due to the fact that he dominated some Hamed, Ayala, Tapia, Kelley and several other top fighters shortly after.

Only idiots can't realize that MAB was in his top shape when he fought Manny, I seriously think it's mannys best win in his resume.

[The Noose]

Oscar wasn't a quality opponent, Hatton had been ruined since the Mayweather fight, and Cotto's career was ruined by Margarito. Roach agrees with every point I just made, so much so that he said so himself.

Who expected anything less than what happened last saturday? I wish people would stop acting as if Clottey was some huge challenge for Pac. We all knew what was going to happen in that fight.

All quality.

The Oscar fight was said to be a mismatch before it happened. We didnt know Oscar would be so ****.

Hatton was **** at 147 but still the dominant 140 lber. Pac had never faced a smothering pressure fighter like Hatton before.

Cotto had 2 good wins after Marg and proved he was still a good fighter.

Peace.

[AFTER HOURS]

Man please Pac is in his prime. Did you even watch him fight on Saturday?

because he wins. but if pac loses, thats a past prime right there

Who said anything about Manny being past prime? Pac is the best boxer in the world and he's still in his prime.

Are you seriously going to compare a boxer who is still in his prime to a boxer who clearly had nothing left?

Floyd gets full credit if he beats Pacquiao because Pac is still in his prime, #1 p4p, etc.

hes been to many wars too just like morales right?

It has nothing to do with age. So everyone is shot at the same age? How about we compare the wars erik had been in. What about the fact that erik could barely even stand up because he was drained? Compare b hop and erik. Why didnt b hop become washed up at 29? Think about it for a minute.....

so lets say erik beat pac in the rematch. will theres be a talk of erik being shot?

mosley has been KO right? morales has never been KO before pac did it right?

are you familair with the term hindsight bias?

[Biolink]

The names on Pac's resume are more memorable and identifiable than the ones on Mayweather's resume (to most people).

An argument can be made that both Pac and May fought over the hill guys later in their careers

SNIP

I can excuse that line of thought for casual boxing fans that only tune in for big fights for having that line of thought. A casual fans would say "Pacquiao has more memorable and bigger names on his resume, end of discussion"

But we're all here on a Boxing forum for a reason.

I believe people should be able to objectively(Key word. As long as its OBJECTIVE) break down any possible fight of Pacquiao's that they question, similarly for Mayweather(Which people around here do on a daily basis).

[-The Glove-]

He doesn't get a pass; he's just a well-liked, highly decorated fighter.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

All quality.

The Oscar fight was said to be a mismatch before it happened. We didnt know Oscar would be so ****.

Hatton was **** at 147 but still the dominant 140 lber. Pac had never faced a smothering pressure fighter like Hatton before.

Cotto had 2 good wins after Marg and proved he was still a good fighter.

Peace.

Naw my dude.

Oscar was shot and drained.

Hatton was KO'd by Floyd and almost KO'd by Lazacano.

Coot had two good wins??? Clottey who most think he lost to? And Jennings? Cmon bro. Cotto was done after Marga beat him up he wasnt the same fighter.

[jrosales13]

No they don't. Manny's biggest fights with the exception of Cotto included fighters Mayweathers beaten, and most often, with the exception of JMM, he'd beaten them before Pac did. Mosely by himself is a better boxer than everyone on Pacs resume.

Fact is, Pac isn't above criticism.

That is not a fact, now if that is your opinion fine. But, give me a prime Barrera>Mosley