Why Does Manny Get a Pass for Cherry Picking Opponents?

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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #121
    Originally posted by Huros
    so you wont give floyd credit if he beats pac because hes past prime and been to many wars?
    Man please Pac is in his prime. Did you even watch him fight on Saturday?

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    • War Dinamita
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      #122
      Originally posted by Huros
      so you wont give floyd credit if he beats pac because hes past prime and been to many wars?
      Who said anything about Manny being past prime? Pac is the best boxer in the world and he's still in his prime.

      Are you seriously going to compare a boxer who is still in his prime to a boxer who clearly had nothing left?

      Floyd gets full credit if he beats Pacquiao because Pac is still in his prime, #1 p4p, etc.

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      • mathed
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        #123
        Originally posted by Nike Phats
        Here's the difference. You and I? Are opinions are irrelevant. By ROACH'S OWN ADMISSION, meaning the words cams straight out of Roach's mouth, that Cotto, DLH, and Hatton were either shot or past their prime.

        I don't even know why you mentioned JMM. In both fights it can be argued that JMM won(especially the first), and Floyd dominated the man.

        Morales was shot and past his prime, coming off a loss to a journeyman in Raheem.

        We've already been over Clottey. No one expected Clottey to pose much of a threat.

        Diaz was on the decline.

        etc, etc, etc.


        Again, Manny isn't above criticism.
        Floyd fought a ballooned up Marquez that was slow compared to at 130
        Roach says a bunch of stuff like Pac would KO Clottey but I knew that was not gonna happen, Clottey had never been stopped. I mentioned JMM because I was trying to point out that the names on Pac's resume was more impressive than Mayweathers. He is on both of their resumes but I don't even consider Money's fight with JMM a legit bout due to the circumstances. The names on Pac's resume are more memorable and identifiable than the ones on Mayweather's resume (to most people).

        An argument can be made that both Pac and May fought over the hill guys later in their careers

        And again, as noted in my prior post, I never said Manny was above criticism. You are just as entitled to your opinion as I am, mine simply differs from yours a little.

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        • KILLA RIGHT
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          #124
          Originally posted by Huros
          if he was done how did the fight reach round 10?



          so, a 29 yr old morales is more shot than a 38 yr old mosley?
          It has nothing to do with age. So everyone is shot at the same age? How about we compare the wars erik had been in. What about the fact that erik could barely even stand up because he was drained? Compare b hop and erik. Why didnt b hop become washed up at 29? Think about it for a minute.....

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          • Hannibal Barca
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            #125
            Originally posted by Saint Anus
            Its been said many times that Pac 'cherry picks' (i watch too much **** and thought of teen sluts).

            Open ya eyes **** face!



            Pac chooses quality opponents. Hatton, Cotto and Clottey and Oscar were all quality and because Manny is so aggressive and they were bigger and also aggressive it was a dangerous for him but also very entertaining.

            Lets give the little tiger some ****ing credit.

            The man keeps fighting bigger tougher men.
            Oscar wasn't a quality opponent, Hatton had been ruined since the Mayweather fight, and Cotto's career was ruined by Margarito. Roach agrees with every point I just made, so much so that he said so himself.

            Who expected anything less than what happened last saturday? I wish people would stop acting as if Clottey was some huge challenge for Pac. We all knew what was going to happen in that fight.

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            • rskumm21
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              #126
              Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
              lol at this flaming @ss reply. Barrera was shot when Pac first beat him? Sorry but I wont be responding to you anymore, because you are nothing more than a troll.
              Barrera had been through two hellacious wars with Morales by the time of his first fight with Pac. He was never the same after that.

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                #127
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                Completely ridiculous, there is absolutely no basis to compare the two situations. Hatton was undefeated and the clear best at 140 when he left to fight Collazo and Floyd, and after losing to Floyd went back down and beat two more contenders, including dominating and stopping one of the better fighters in the division at the time, Paulie Malignaggi. How in the hell is there any connection between that and Carlos Baldomir?
                Laccano was a washed up 135lber he wasn't a contender. If Hatton fought Bradley in November 2008 instead of Malignaggi he would have been destroyed.

                Baldomir beat Judah who was the #1 guy at 147 and Gatti who was washed up. So at the time Floyd Baldomir he was the man if Hatton was the man atn 140.

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                • War Dinamita
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by tanibanana
                  Morales was not in his best.. okay.. well records don't write if they are still in his prime of not.. because, Pac can have an argument, that he was still green back then, it seems Pac just reach his prime after Morales trilogy.. so basically, both fighters did fight each others when both are not in their primes, which means equal grounds..
                  How are you going to compare a young fighter who was reaching his potential to a fighter who had been in multiple wars and was shot?

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by tanibanana
                    Morales was not in his best.. okay.. well records don't write if they are still in his prime of not.. because, Pac can have an argument, that he was still green back then, it seems Pac just reach his prime after Morales trilogy.. so basically, both fighters did fight each others when both are not in their primes, which means equal grounds..
                    Are you serious? This has to be the ******est reply i've ever seen on the subject. You really think that it was equal grounds because a fighter was already at the end of his career and a fighter who was just starting it?

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by rabagiyo
                      Are you serious? This has to be the ******est reply i've ever seen on the subject. You really think that it was equal grounds because a fighter was already at the end of his career and a fighter who was just starting it?
                      They'll do anything to defend the man.

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