Roach: MMA has a brighter future than Boxing, harder for a boxer to go into MMA

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  • mrpain81
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    #81
    Originally posted by TheGoldStandard
    Their attire is pretty much the same one of a boxer. What are you talking about?
    Maybe this?

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      #82
      Originally posted by TheGoldStandard
      If MMA is dead in Japan, then how come they can still pull in crowds of 20,000 at MMA events?

      The only good ratings they get is when they have a show after boxing, doesn't matter how many people are in the arena. From what we know they give the tickets away, do you have any information on how many people actually pay for the events? You can't deny that MMA has gone hill after pride went away, btw Pride was the king of MMA. I was a huge fan and I still watch dream.

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      • Bullrush
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        #83
        Originally posted by TheGoldStandard
        It doesn't have to be good nowadays, it has to be great. Great striking, wrestling, jujitsu. Yeah, that's only it. Like I said, Griffin became champ years ago due to a robbery.
        what do you mean robbery? he controlled the fight and beat rampage that day

        look at all the top fighters in the UFC, most of them are just good/great wrestlers. theres nobody that is great at everything

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        • BoxingFanFirst
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          #84
          Originally posted by TheGoldStandard
          Based on what exactly?
          It's simple.. The talent pool is so much bigger and light years ahead. The pay a boxer makes will bring in the better athletes.

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            #85
            Roach has some points. Boxing needs better undercards and entertainment in between.

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            • Lead Cenobite
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              #86
              Originally posted by TheGoldStandard
              Casual fans know who Sean Shark is/was. C'mon now.
              Fail. No they don't. That's a joke. I know TONS of casual UFC fans. Couldn't name Sean Sherk if I payed them.

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                #87
                Originally posted by TheGoldStandard
                That's it? Seems like they've already got the major markets then..
                Foothold does not mean taken over. Sorry to break it to you.

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                • Lead Cenobite
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by TheGoldStandard
                  Way to stereotype.
                  I'm not stereotyping. That's the crowd and fanbase the UFC actively targets in their marketing and advertisements. It's the crowd they want.

                  I love how you think you know anything about "MMA" then make a statement that you have to be "great" at everything. No. You really don't.

                  There are no great strikers in UFC. Honestly. Just deal with that. And I mean Kickboxing too. It's pretty much top to bottom a ****ing joke.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by TheGoldStandard
                    "proper physical attributes" such as?
                    attributes like "conditioning, handspeed, or the proper style to suit their body type"

                    What alot of people dont realize is that there really is no such thing as an "mma fighter" every mma fighter is or has transitioned from another sport altogether.

                    There are boxers who transition into mma and find success. there are some that dont. (andre berto's brother edson is a good example)

                    There are olympic wrestlers and jiu-jitsu world champions who have already spent their lives conditioning their bodies to bear the workload to optimize their bodies for optimal performance in their sport/art. To expect them to transition into boxing would be like expecting a world champion to qualify for the olympic wrestling team. Just doesnt work that way.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Lead Cenobite
                      I'm not stereotyping. That's the crowd and fanbase the UFC actively targets in their marketing and advertisements. It's the crowd they want.

                      I love how you think you know anything about "MMA" then make a statement that you have to be "great" at everything. No. You really don't.

                      There are no great strikers in UFC. Honestly. Just deal with that. And I mean Kickboxing too. It's pretty much top to bottom a ****ing joke.
                      The ufc does lean more heavily towards grappling. Strikeforce has some great strikers. Cung Le is excellent at kickboxing, as is Marvin Manhoeff. Nick Diaz with his slapping rangefinder jab is probably the closest thing to a decent boxer in mma.

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