To The Pretender!!

[The Pretender]

Even before the fight RJJ announced that he will most likely not stay at the HW. He vacated the belt to go back to Light HW to keep his belts.

Oh riiight, that's why Roy signed a rematch clause BEFORE the fight with Ruiz? Just another example of weak logic. Try again.

[BadMagick]

Oh riiight, that's why Roy signed a rematch clause BEFORE the fight with Ruiz? Just another example of weak logic. Try again.

Yeah, it was just to get Ruiz to fight him. It makes a lot of sense. Even if you don't plan to fight the guy again, give him the clause and pay him some money for breaking it, instead of really fighting him again. It gives you a better shot at getting the match.

[The Pretender]

Yeah, it was just to get Ruiz to fight him. It makes a lot of sense. Even if you don't plan to fight the guy again, give him the clause and pay him some money for breaking it, instead of really fighting him again. It gives you a better shot at getting the match.

Well regardless of what reason Roy had for not taking a single defense and mandatory rematch before vacating the belt, that's precisely the reason I lost respect for him. And that's also why I dont recognize him as a true hw champ. He never defended the belt. Any fighter who vacates a belt rather than defend it is not a champ in my eyes...thats just a disgrace. Especially when Roy simply moves down to fight a punk he already beat.

So serves him right things turned out the way they did. He should have taken the rematch, then he wouldnt have made Tarver a star, been KTFO twice in a row, retired, and had his aura of invincibility dashed.

[BadMagick]

Well regardless of what reason Roy had for not taking a single defense and mandatory rematch before vacating the belt, that's precisely the reason I lost respect for him. And that's also why I dont recognize him as a true hw champ. He never defended the belt. Any fighter who vacates a belt rather than defend it is not a champ in my eyes...thats just a disgrace. Especially when Roy simply moves down to fight a punk he already beat.

So serves him right things turned out the way they did. He should have taken the rematch, then he wouldnt have made Tarver a star, been KTFO twice in a row, retired, and had his aura of invincibility dashed.

He hadn't fought Tarver before the Ruiz fight. Tarver called him out, and he foolishly went down. His pride got the best of him.

[as214]

He hadn't fought Tarver before the Ruiz fight. Tarver called him out, and he foolishly went down. His pride got the best of him.

He let Tarver get in his head>> LOL Tarver is funny. Did you guys see the press conference after Roy beat Ruiz.. Tarver was there and he called out Roy.. He said " Roy stop runnin from me what do I have to do to get a fight with you, go to Pensacola and piss on your momma "LOL

[nezahualcoyotl]

The contender is the best!

[The Pretender]

He hadn't fought Tarver before the Ruiz fight. Tarver called him out, and he foolishly went down. His pride got the best of him.

I always thought he fought Ruiz after Tarver 1, guess I was wrong. Then I have to wonder why in the world wouldnt Roy simply say to Tarver "I'm hw now, if you want to swim with the big boys you gotta step out of the kiddie pool. I'm into bigger and better things, come up to heavy if you want a piece."...?

[Bad Intentions]

He let Tarver get in his head>> LOL Tarver is funny. Did you guys see the press conference after Roy beat Ruiz.. Tarver was there and he called out Roy.. He said " Roy stop runnin from me what do I have to do to get a fight with you, go to Pensacola and piss on your momma "LOL

actually he said "PISS ON UR LAWN". but still funny

[SnoopySmurf]

So...Pretender still has not answered how and why Ruiz lost to RJJ.

[Boxfan12]

Um WHY take the rematch? Because 1) Ruiz was mandatory 2) Roy SIGNED for a rematch clause before they fought the first time. 3) Roy needs to make at least one single defense to prove he is a heavyweight champ.

The excuse is Tarver was taunting him so he had to vacate to fight him? Give me a break! HW is the most prestigious div in boxing and Roy one of the couple to climb into it from a few weight classes below. He could have easily told Tarver to come up to HW and face him. You don't run from a fighter by going UP in weight class! If Tarver refused he could be seen as just incapable of being a heavyweight champ!

Roy long before tarver came into the pic, he said he fight the HW champ one time. Yes he picked a safe oppent like ruiz. That fight looked like a typical roy jones jr schooling for 1 i wouldnt pay to see that again. And if i recall tarver didnt start runing his mouth intill jones went up. I would of liked to see jones stay at HW but not rematch ****ty ruiz. you need to stop pretending. And how can you have respect for a punk like ruiz your idle. Some people pick the wrong dudes to look up to in boxing.