To The Pretender!!

[Bad Intentions]

I was just wondering what was ur excuse for Ruiz losing to Roy Jones?

[Tha Greatest]

I was just wondering what was ur excuse for Ruiz losing to Roy Jones?

Roy Jones Jr. made 0 defenses you know

So Ruiz is more successful overall

[The Pretender]

Yeah really. The fact is Roy had a mandatory rematch with Ruiz that he signed for and in the end he takes zero defenses and chooses to vacate rather than take a rematch. Then afterwards he get KTFO twice and retired. Today Ruiz still the champ.

[Bad Intentions]

Yeah really. The fact is Roy had a mandatory rematch with Ruiz that he signed for and in the end he takes zero defenses and chooses to vacate rather than take a rematch. Then afterwards he get KTFO twice and retired. Today Ruiz still the champ.

lol i knew there was something, he was getting taunted by Tarver so he took that fight instead cuz everyone thought he was ducking him, he already schooled Ruiz easily so why fight him again, instead he fought Tarver and won but eventually paid in the end for loosing all that muscle, Ruiz Jones 2 would played out the same way if it happened after the 1st fight.

[splittingatoms]

yea jones schooled ruiz in every round of their fight.why give him a rematch.if it would have been a real close fight i could see a rematch but when a fight is that lopsided,we wouldnt need to see a boxing clinic again.

[rocco1252]

There are fights you take rematches after but that was not one of them, it wasnt even a decent fight Ruiz just stood there and druled like he always does while he is holding a guy. He got beat up looked bad and always does. NO REMATCH

[AintGottaClue]

Thepretender why did ruiz lose in the first place? i dont wanna hear who the champ is now i wanna now why he lsot that fight on that night and only that

[The Pretender]

Um WHY take the rematch? Because 1) Ruiz was mandatory 2) Roy SIGNED for a rematch clause before they fought the first time. 3) Roy needs to make at least one single defense to prove he is a heavyweight champ.

The excuse is Tarver was taunting him so he had to vacate to fight him? Give me a break! HW is the most prestigious div in boxing and Roy one of the couple to climb into it from a few weight classes below. He could have easily told Tarver to come up to HW and face him. You don't run from a fighter by going UP in weight class! If Tarver refused he could be seen as just incapable of being a heavyweight champ!

[Bad Intentions]

Um WHY take the rematch? Because 1) Ruiz was mandatory 2) Roy SIGNED for a rematch clause before they fought the first time. 3) Roy needs to make at least one single defense to prove he is a heavyweight champ.

The excuse is Tarver was taunting him so he had to vacate to fight him? Give me a break! HW is the most prestigious div in boxing and Roy one of the couple to climb into it from a few weight classes below. He could have easily told Tarver to come up to HW and face him. You don't run from a fighter by going UP in weight class! If Tarver refused he could be seen as just incapable of being a heavyweight champ!

I agree, i said he shoulda made Tarver come up and fight for the WBA belt but he didnt cuz Tarver was undisputed champ at Light Heavy, It was Roys pride that made him go down to show people that Tarvers not the man at 175. And also before the fight Roy said he wanted one fight at heavywieght and thats what he did,

[The Pretender]

I agree, i said he shoulda made Tarver come up and fight for the WBA belt but he didnt cuz Tarver was undisputed champ at Light Heavy, It was Roys pride that made him go down to show people that Tarvers not the man at 175. And also before the fight Roy said he wanted one fight at heavywieght and thats what he did,

See I can agree with that because Tarver was really still a nobody at that point. Roy was a legend and didnt have to step down in weight to face him to prove a point. Roy's pride was his downfall...now Tarver's career is built on that one single punch. And like Tyson's defeats by Douglas/Holy, that whole intimidation factor and invincible aura is now gone for Jones so every fighter he faced will no longer see him as someone who cant be beat. Thats why Glen wasnt intimidated.

Roy beat Ruiz I never said he didnt, but he should have taken the mandatory defense/rematch and been a true hw champ.