So who is the Best Welterweight?

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  • The Noose
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    #31
    SMM may be technically the No.1, but i believe Floyd and Pac would beat him.

    So May 1st will be imortant.

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    • Blue Heffner
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      #32
      Shane Mosley......

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      • Frank Martin
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        #33
        Originally posted by Glock
        cotto never had a crown at 147.

        he was the top rated 147 fighter.

        ratings are not passed from loser to winner like titles are.

        ratings are subject to opinion.

        you rate them according to their recent body of work.

        shane beating marg might be better than pacquiao beating cotto or pacquiao beating clottey but that was 14 months ago.

        pacquiao just beat cotto 4 months ago and just beat clottey this week.
        Cotto became the #1 WW when he beat Shane and Floyd retired- FACT
        Margarito became the #1 WW when he beat Cotto - FACT

        Beat the #1 at the division and you will become #1

        Its like playing basketball or football. You have to steal the ball then defend it and make a score.

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        • piano man
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          #34
          Originally posted by Glock
          yeah but shane only beat marg after williams beat him


          see how that works?

          you have to look at all 3's recent body of work.

          pacquiao had 2 good wins at 147 recently.
          mosley had 2 good wins at 147 recently.

          the odd man out is floyd because of his retirement. skillswise he's up there with them but resume wise his last good wins were in 2007.
          how many ww fights pacquiao has fought?
          how many ww shane mosley has fought?

          pacquiao is #1p4p
          mosley is #1atWW
          simple as that

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          • Mr.Crust
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            #35
            You shouldnt really use the formula,- Mosley beat Marg who beat Cotto-,because Cotto beat Mosley etc etc.

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            • Left Banned Tua
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              #36
              Originally posted by Frank Martin
              Cotto became the #1 WW when he beat Shane and Floyd retired- FACT
              Margarito became the #1 WW when he beat Cotto - FACT

              Beat the #1 at the division and you will become #1

              Its like playing basketball or football. You have to steal the ball then defend it and make a score.
              so shane is #1 right now to you right?

              what if he's not fighting floyd in may and had been fighting a tuneup with say alfonso gomez.

              if gomez beats him he becomes #1 at 147 over pacquiao and mayweather?



              like i said ratings are based on opinions of skills and recent fights. it's not passed around from loser to winner.



              you bring football and basketball up as an example.

              take the college rankings , does the team who beats the current #1 automatically become #1? no.

              same with boxing rankings.

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              • toysale
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                #37
                The best WW will be decided in May, but for now Pacquiao is the best WW.

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                • AdamantiumPI
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                  #38
                  1. a. Pac
                  b. Mosley
                  c. PBF

                  Rankings will be more easy to define after May 1st and when we hopefully get to see Pac vs. PBF.

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                  • Left Banned Tua
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by dontCry
                    how many ww fights pacquiao has fought?
                    how many ww shane mosley has fought?

                    pacquiao is #1p4p
                    mosley is #1atWW
                    simple as that
                    since mosley came back to 147?

                    three. each.

                    mosley came back to 147 in 2007.

                    he beat collazo , lost to cotto and beat margarito.

                    pacquiao beat delahoya , beat cotto and beat clottey.


                    you counting mosley's resume at 147 from 1999-2002?

                    if that's the case roy jones should be #1 at 175 right now.

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                    • piano man
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Glock
                      so shane is #1 right now to you right?

                      what if he's not fighting floyd in may and had been fighting a tuneup with say alfonso gomez.

                      if gomez beats him he becomes #1 at 147 over pacquiao and mayweather?



                      like i said ratings are based on opinions of skills and recent fights. it's not passed around from loser to winner.



                      you bring football and basketball up as an example.

                      take the college rankings , does the team who beats the current #1 automatically become #1? no.

                      same with boxing rankings.
                      you gotta to work your way up
                      if alfonso gomez work's his way up by beating all the top guys and then he beats shane mosley even he can be #1ww
                      but right now shane mosley has that spot

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