Mayweather and southpaws..

[DLT]

I agree. And ***** also has bad habits when facing southpaws. I've watched both the Corley and Judah fights and he makes the same exact mistakes. In fact, I could not believe how often he made the same mistakes round after round.

the problem is, none of those two have ever capitalized on 'em. Hopefully PAC sees 'em. Roach had already spoken about it during an interview, but he didn't specify what they were. So, I don't know if he was seeing the same thing I was seeing. Anyway, I hope PAC can follow the gameplan.

care to say what that same mistake was?

[daggum]

care to say what that same mistake was?

getting hit in the face

[madsweeney]

well manny looks wayyyy worse against counterpuncher/boxers than floyd ever did against southpaws. so really what's your point??the same could easily be said for manny and the reason rouach hasnt put him in the ring against a real boxer/counterpuncher since jmm.

Can you honestly say any southpaw that Floyd faced was at JMM's level? I'm also not sure JMM can give Pac nearly as many problems as he did before.

[tyger]

Everyone knows Mayweather doesn't like to fight them. He has faced less than half the southpaws in his whole career than Hopkins did in title bouts alone. He has faced half as many in his career as Jones Jr. did in just light heavy defences. Do you think this is just a coincidence? How does anyone explain the fact that Mayweather has faced less southpaws in his career than anyone in the top ten lb4lb in the last ten years(baring heavyweights)

How in the world can an ordinary fighter like Spadafora own him in sparring, he's half the fighter Mayweather is, but he is a southpaw. The other day somebody pointed out that Baldomir looked better against Judah than Mayweather did. And yet Mayweather schooled Baldomir. How does that workout? Baldomir was just better at handling the southpaw stance. You don't have to admit it, but it is apparent to most of us unbaised observers never the less.

[Pacquiao'd]

there's a reason when even early on in floyds career his dad told his handlers never to put him in with a southpaw. he knows his defensive style doesn't translate when fighting them cause he had the same style himself and knows from experience.

look how judah tagged him at will and forced him to resort to a clottey style defense. that's not gonna work against pac cause we just saw that fight. if floyd really is so great how come he can only fight 1 style of fighters and not southpaws?

and guess what, floyd can handle southpaws b.c he actaully had the balls to get in the ring with that style

[ModernTalking]

Floyd know he has trouble with southpaw that's what he's scare of Pacquiao.

[Tsukiyomi]

I agree that Floyd has certain lapses against southpaws that he doesn't have versus orthodox. The angles coming from southpaw are responsible for the best shots landed on Floyd, doing the most damage.

In two fights against southpaws, Floyd has been stunned, hurt and flash KD by right hooks he didn't see and walked into, and straight lefts that came between his shoulder and right glove. I don't see that against far better, orthodox guys.

[Calilloyd]

there's a reason when even early on in floyds career his dad told his handlers never to put him in with a southpaw. he knows his defensive style doesn't translate when fighting them cause he had the same style himself and knows from experience.

look how judah tagged him at will and forced him to resort to a clottey style defense. that's not gonna work against pac cause we just saw that fight. if floyd really is so great how come he can only fight 1 style of fighters and not southpaws?

The facts about that fight get more and more absent with some people here. Mayweather "knocked down". Judah "hitting Mayweather at will." Just more rewritten history.

[MidnightBliss]

A lot of peeps are going on about Mayweather having incredible defense and Pacquiao won't be able to break it.

Let me say this, If Pacquiao was an orthodox fighter, I'd probably say he'd lose for FMJ. He is however, a southpaw. An orthodox fighter has essentially no chance to beat Mayweather unless they are taller than him and can fire over his shoulder roll. I mean, nothings impossible, but a shorter Orthodox fighter is going to have a damn hard time infiltrating the philly shell. I'm surprised Marquez even managed to land those few rights hands that he did.

A southpaw however, almost completely negates Mayweathers defense. In 2 of the fights he had with southpaws he was stunned in both, and knocked down in one of them. In the Zab Judah fight he was forced to abandon his typical defense and wait for Judah to fade. Reason being, there isn't much point in shoulder rolling a jab, especially if the opponent starts right hooking off the jab (feints).

So really, all Mayweather has in terms of defense against a southpaw is his movement / agility (very good) and a typical high guard that he likes to revert to (works against the southpaws he faced, but Pacquiao?). The pressure Hatton put on him was hard enough, but the pressure of a guy like Pacquiao, a southpaw..could turn things real ugly.

not saying Pacquiao will win, just keep this in mind since a lot of you don't really know how Mayweathers defense works.

Exactly what ive been saying for the passed few months...

Pac = Southpaw with best straight left in the game, faster, higher workrate and gas to burn all day, he will never tire.

This will pose problems for Floyd, his defensive game will crack eventually.

[Calilloyd]

Can you honestly say any southpaw that Floyd faced was at JMM's level? I'm also not sure JMM can give Pac nearly as many problems as he did before.

Based on what? Pacquiao has not fought a counter puncher like JMM since their last fight. He didn't want a third fight at all and said so. And no, Clottey does not fight like JMM.