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[M.I.C.]

Just shut up ok..

whenever you are ready to discuss boxing, let us know

[flexxx145]

Wow thats interesting, something I didn't realize before in all the years I've been watching boxing is how big the sport has always been in the UK. A lot of American's are somewhat biased against UK and European Boxing in general because we believe the stereotype that American fighters dont get a fair shake there. Irony is that a lot European fighters dont get a fair shake here (De La Hoya-Sturm comes to mind)

Interesting thing for me is that I never concerned myself with whether the judges were fair or not, the younger and sillier me was more offended by the arenas themselves. For whatever reason it seemed the UK and European arenas were dark and dimly lit. For American viewers the dark arenas are unusual, we are used to things being bright and flashy. I can remember changing the channel on fights broadcast from the UK cause I felt they were fighting in the dark lol

With that said, the really dark arenas may be a thing of the past or it may had just be my imagination. I regret that I turned off a few Prince Naseem fights back then just for that silly reason.

The reason being American judges will give the fight to fighters who come forward and "press the fight". Euro's go by number of shots landed. It's a difference in scoring that needs to be hashed out.

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I told you don't respond to the trolls. He has no life, gets no vagina, and has all day to spam the site. It's futile talking to a POS like him.

Not to mention he jerks off to gifs of little boys humping dogs lol!

lmao butthurt much?

[M.I.C.]

The reason being American judges will give the fight to fighters who come forward and "press the fight". Euro's go by number of shots landed. It's a difference in scoring that needs to be hashed out.

That all makes sense, if American fighters are used to scoring/winning one way, then they go to Europe where they score another way, that would make a big difference. In boxing, I think scoring should be universal. Its one of the few things I agree with Harold Letterman on, his 4 criteria for scoring fights.

[flexxx145]

That all makes sense, if American fighters are used to scoring/winning one way, then they go to Europe where they score another way, that would make a big difference. In boxing, I think scoring should be universal. Its one of the few things I agree with Harold Letterman on, his 4 criteria for scoring fights.

Personally I think that whole pressing the fight thing is just a way to give Americans an advantage. Fights should always be scored on who lands more punches, knockdowns, and of course stoppage.

[PensionKiller]

Wow thats interesting, something I didn't realize before in all the years I've been watching boxing is how big the sport has always been in the UK. A lot of American's are somewhat biased against UK and European Boxing in general because they accept the stereotype that American fighters dont get a fair shake there. Irony is that a lot European fighters dont get a fair shake here (De La Hoya-Sturm comes to mind)

Interesting thing for me is that I never concerned myself with whether the judges were fair or not, the younger and sillier me was more offended by the arenas themselves. For whatever reason it seemed the UK and European arenas were dark and dimly lit. For American viewers the dark arenas are unusual, we are used to things being bright and flashy. I can remember changing the channel on fights broadcast from the UK cause I felt they were fighting in the dark lol

With that said, the really dark arenas may be a thing of the past or it may had just be my imagination. I regret that I turned off a few Prince Naseem fights back then just for that silly reason.

Boxing has a good history here.

I mean some gyms have been closed down because of the boroughs (like a small area of a city. kinda like mini states you could say) because boxing is looked bad on.

There was a gym in Dalston that Micahel Watson went to (Near me) He beat Nigel Benn and got Nigel to go to the US to learn some new **** over there (US made him much better because he was used to KO'ing people rather than boxing. Think he was with Duran aswell which was good for him - Legend).

It's only coming back now, but with the lack of money into boxing, it's not free anymore. Amir Khan was on there for abit (ITV), Audley on BBC but he was so **** and did harm.

Sport is big in the uk, we just aren't great at it lol. We have so many sports that people watch, but also do. Cycling, tennis, football, rugby, cricket and then all the other sports. We pretty much do everything in the olympics.

As for the darkness in boxing fights. It still is lol. It's not really dark when sitting in there, but the cameras make it worse. I think it adds to the effect of just making us look in the ring.

As for the US and European fighters, there are home town decisions in everywhere IMO. The US is where the money is at, and to be fair, boxing is all about generating money.

Judging tc is just too vast to be fair. We need a league somehow like the UFC to be better, but that will never happen unfortunately.

[M.I.C.]

Personally I think that whole pressing the fight thing is just a way to give Americans an advantage. Fights should always be scored on who lands more punches, knockdowns, and of course stoppage.

Advantage to the guy pressing the fight also must be a new concept, cause Ali would of never won a fight if it was based on being the aggressor. In a way, I think this all goes back to those who sympathized with Hagler in his loss to Leonard, every since then boxers have to deal with being called runners and aggressors are supposedly so noble.

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I told you don't respond to the trolls. He has no life, gets no vagina, and has all day to spam the site. It's futile talking to a POS like him.

Not to mention he jerks off to gifs of little boys humping dogs lol!

Oh thats him with the kid humping the dog, I dont know why he would post that on a boxing forum, sick in the mind.

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you mad the kid didn't take off his shirt for you bro?

[M.I.C.]

Boxing has a good history here.

I mean some gyms have been closed down because of the boroughs (like a small area of a city. kinda like mini states you could say) because boxing is looked bad on.

There was a gym in Dalston that Micahel Watson went to (Near me) He beat Nigel Benn and got Nigel to go to the US to learn some new **** over there (US made him much better because he was used to KO'ing people rather than boxing. Think he was with Duran aswell which was good for him - Legend).

It's only coming back now, but with the lack of money into boxing, it's not free anymore. Amir Khan was on there for abit (ITV), Audley on BBC but he was so **** and did harm.

Sport is big in the uk, we just aren't great at it lol. We have so many sports that people watch, but also do. Cycling, tennis, football, rugby, cricket and then all the other sports. We pretty much do everything in the olympics.

As for the darkness in boxing fights. It still is lol. It's not really dark when sitting in there, but the cameras make it worse. I think it adds to the effect of just making us look in the ring.

As for the US and European fighters, there are home town decisions in everywhere IMO. The US is where the money is at, and to be fair, boxing is all about generating money.

Judging tc is just too vast to be fair. We need a league somehow like the UFC to be better, but that will never happen unfortunately.

So it really is as dark as it looks on Television, I think that works if you are in the arena but on television it makes the fight look less important or not the mega event its suppose to be. Basically in America, when an arena is dark like that, its a sign that this is just an ESPN or ShoBox level fight. Now these days it doesn't bother me, the ring action is where its at, but it took me a while to adapt to it.

[flexxx145]

Advantage to the guy pressing the fight also must be a new concept, cause Ali would of never won a fight if it was based on being the aggressor. In a way, I think this all goes back to those who sympathized with Hagler in his loss to Leonard, every since then boxers have to deal with being called runners and aggressors are supposedly so noble.

To some of these guys Leonard is lower on the ATG list than pacman. So you can't take them seriously. Those golden era bouts destroy anything we are going to see in the future. Except maybe if May vs Pac happens. Technical skill is so underrated here in the US these days.