Has Floyd fought a live opponent in the last eight years?

[johnm is...]

pac is smaller than him?

mosley is older than floyd sr.?

LOL. Built in excuses.

[check hook]

pac is smaller than him?

mosley is older than floyd sr.?

ok then who could he fight at 147 that he wouldn't be faourite????



what you're basically telling me is that you believe no fighter at 147 and below has any chance against floyd?

[johnm is...]

Cotto was supposed to be too big, too strong for Pacquiao. Pac was still the heavy betting favorite.

Clottey is bigger than Pac. Pac is the heavy betting favorite.

Floyd is bigger than Pac.. Floyd is the betting favorite.

Just saying...

[check hook]

Cotto was supposed to be too big, too strong for Pacquiao. Pac was still the heavy betting favorite.

Clottey is bigger than Pac. Pac is the heavy betting favorite.

Floyd is bigger than Pac.. Floyd is the betting favorite.

Just saying...

Clottey bigger than Pac, Floyd and Cotto = $5.60

Cotto bigger than Floyd and Pac = $4.65

Floyd slightly bigge than Pac = favourite......

SSM bigger than Floyd = Floyd favourite...........

[RimmyDelicious]

Sorry, but that IS triangular logic.

No, it isn't. A triangle has three points, triangular logic would be to say that since A beats B that A beats C. That isn't what I'm saying. I am saying, however, that since moving up Manny has looked and will continue to look far superior against the top level of competition, because he is that much better than Floyd.

How Cotto fought Shane has no bearing on how he fought Pacquaio, just as how Floyd will tackle Shane will have zero bearing on how he will fight Manny.

Once again, in a vacuum, certainly that is the case. However, combined with what I have seen from both men against DLH, Hatton, and what I expect to see from Manny against Clottey tonite, I believe that Manny is superior to Floyd. Typically, the best way to figure out how a fighter compares to another fighter is to judge their performances (and styles) against the other top fighters in and near their divisions in recent years, wouldn't you agree?

I didn't even bring it up. I didn't bring up triangular logic in the first place.

I just wanted to clear it up since it is obviously a point that gets brought up often when discussing Manny/Floyd.

[FLY TY]

What's your definition of a 'live opponent'?

Has he fought fights where he was favoured to lose or that split the boxing watching public? Not really, but I would argue that a large part of that can be attributed to the fact that he is so good it's difficult to pick ANYONE to beat him. Even all-time greats such as Manny Pacquiao and (admittedly old) Shane Mosley are largely favoured to catch a schooling by the boxing community.

Has he been involved in competitive fights? Yes. Whether you want to condemn him for falling into a competitive bout with a lesser opponent or not doesn't really matter considering the question in the title - he has provided us with two-sided bouts over the past 8 years.

Has he fought fights that the fans wanted to see? He definitely has, revisionist history aside. Okay, there are fights the fans wanted to see that he didn't fight (Cotto and particularly Margarito come to mind immediately) but it would be mendacious to suggest people weren't calling for or interested in bouts such as Mayweather-Hatton, Mayweather-De La Hoya, Mayweather-Judah, Mayweather-Baldomir and Mayweather-Gatti.

Okay, it's not the most impressive run of form in boxing history but it's not nearly as bad as people (people who often didn't even experience the run first hand - not aimed at you for the record) like to make out.

good post.....

[wazaa.]

It's my new stalker, how are you?

I've given you some K, as requested.

you gave me red. Ima commit suicide !!

[RimmyDelicious]

Christ, spoken like a true **** rider.

If I am the **** rider, than why are you the one resorting to personal insults when you feel "your" fighter is being disrespected?

[johnm is...]

Clottey bigger than Pac, Floyd and Cotto = $5.60

Cotto bigger than Floyd and Pac = $4.65

Floyd slightly bigge than Pac = favourite......

SSM bigger than Floyd = Floyd favourite...........

Some people will find any excuse to to discredit Floyd. I'm not Mayweather's biggest fan by any stretch, but I respect his skills.

If Mosley were fighting Pac, you can bet your ass we'd be hearing nothing from Pac fans about how old Mosley is.

[Left Banned Tua]

ok then who could he fight at 147 that he wouldn't be faourite????



what you're basically telling me is that you believe no fighter at 147 and below has any chance against floyd?

for me?

paul williams.