If Pac is so fond of sanctioning rules why ignore them and fight for 147 belt at 145?

[Eaner0919]

What? I am wrong because the rules clearly state that its up to 147?

Ok fruitcake,have fun!

so you agree that it says up to right?

ok good

then what part of up to don't you understand? please without the immature name calling.

if the WBO states a fighter can weight UP TO one hundred and forty seven lbs for a welterweight fight then why is it okay for Manny to.....

ask for Cotto's title when he did not allow Cotto the chance to exercise the WBO's own rule on this?

really simple question sir that no one has yet to answer with the exception of someone admitting it was wrong

[Eaner0919]

did you not see me post twice in this thread now that I did not think it was right for Pac to ask for 145 vs Cotto?

I understand and respect that. Heck I even mentioned in a reply to someone else

so do you then agree that.

Floyd's stipulations for OST are no more different than Manny asking for Cotto's title without allowing Cotto the chance to weigh 147?

if so then respect. You should talk to the others around here who kill Floyd for essentially the same concepts

[Gutz]

for titles?

yeah big time I have an issue with it

I had an issue with it when Oscar made Bernard weigh 157

and its the same now

let me ask you this

have you ever been critical of Manny?

I have. I agree. that Manny shouldnt have ask for a catchweight..

But damn you Pac Haters act like Manny was the only one that ever asked for one.. If these damn hater knew how many fighters have fought in a catch weight most of them would shut up..

[WhoreUs!]

I understand and respect that. Heck I even mentioned in a reply to someone else

so do you then agree that.

Floyd's stipulations for OST are no more different than Manny asking for Cotto's title without allowing Cotto the chance to weigh 147?

if so then respect. You should talk to the others around here who kill Floyd for essentially the same concepts

I can't speak for everybody
I thought both demands were unnecessary diva moves

[Alibata]

no no no mijo

if you can sit there and go

"Manny is straight ****ing this up what the **** is wrong with him? what a jerk"

instead of

"I wonder why Manny is doing this? I hope he is okay but I am sure he has a reason"

then you are being critical.

and yes I am a fan of Floyd have been for years

but **** if I wont go after Floyd when I see fit to

he is pompous

he is not smart

he does not really care about the sport as much as he lets on

he is in this solely for money and will take the path that makes him the most

but

I am fair

at least fairer than you and your ilk

Nah braddah, you are being biased here. Obviously you come from a Floyd jr. point of what is correct. Your a fan and thats cool. You can look at it both ways bro. As a Floyd fan do you bother to ask why the Mayweathers are accusing Manny of using steroids out of the blue then asking for random tests when they haven't done that in the past? You sympathize with Floyd and what you want is for Pac fans to sympathize the way you do. To be critical about the matters you think should be criticized. Can you criticize Floyd for the way this went down? Can you sympathize with Manny for not yielding to floyds demands? Obviously there are 2 sides of the story. For everyone that says Manny gave up a 40 mil payday by not taking the tests there is a opinion that Floyd gave up a 40 mil payday by not compromising.

[Ray*]

so you agree that it says up to right?

ok good

then what part of up to don't you understand? please without the immature name calling.

if the WBO states a fighter can weight UP TO one hundred and forty seven lbs for a welterweight fight then why is it okay for Manny to.....

ask for Cotto's title when he did not allow Cotto the chance to exercise the WBO's own rule on this?

really simple question sir that no one has yet to answer with the exception of someone admitting it was wrong

Manny broke the rules period! And he looks like a hypocrite for saying Mayweather is trying to make up his own rules, This is what is soooo difficult for some of the poster on here to admit.

Instead they're playing dumb and trying to educate boxing fans like me who have follow the sport since i was 6 years old....

Yessss 141-147 is WW and yessss Cotto Agreed..

[Mr.Crust]

so you agree that it says up to right?

ok good

then what part of up to don't you understand? please without the immature name calling.

if the WBO states a fighter can weight UP TO one hundred and forty seven lbs for a welterweight fight then why is it okay for Manny to.....

ask for Cotto's title when he did not allow Cotto the chance to exercise the WBO's own rule on this?

really simple question sir that no one has yet to answer with the exception of someone admitting it was wrong

Quite simple. Its called negotiation. If the two parties can agree on the bout being at a certain weight thats within the weightclass criteria,then go. If not,dont go.

I fail to see why you cant understand this,you normally seem pretty bright.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Quite simple. Its called negotiation. If the two parties can agree on the bout being at a certain weight thats within the weightclass criteria,then go. If not,dont go.

I fail to see why you cant understand this,you normally seem pretty bright.

So you dont have any issues with Floyd asking for OST's right?

[Eaner0919]

Nah braddah, you are being biased here. Obviously you come from a Floyd jr. point of what is correct. Your a fan and thats cool. You can look at it both ways bro. You sympathize with Floyd and what you want is for Pac fans to sympathize the way you do. To be critical about the matters you think should be criticized.

Its funny but you are really the only one who sees it this way but let me end game you a bit

As a Floyd fan do you bother to ask why the Mayweathers are accusing Manny of using steroids out of the blue then asking for random tests when they haven't done that in the past?

see this is the rub for me

It was never out of the blue. Your perception is of that but I know of how this went down and people let Floyds team know before this even was a point.

Can you criticize Floyd for the way this went down?

of course. I have stated that BOTH are being divas, BOTH are being selfish and BOTH should be at fault for not having this fight go down

Mayweather isnt out to save the sport we all know this. He wanted to ensure he had a level playing field period

on the other hand MOST Manny fans see it only as Mayweather's fault

Can you sympathize with Manny for not yielding to floyds demands?

a little but not much

why?

because no one really gave us a logical reason as to why

what we got

it weakens me
too soon to the fight
Floyd doesnt run the show
etc etc

we never got full disclosure as to why which led to ....speculation.

Obviously there are 2 sides of the story. For everyone that says Manny gave up a 40 mil payday by not taking the tests there is a opinion that Floyd gave up a 40 mil payday by not compromising.

both screwed up

but to hear Manny's fans its all on Floyd

right?

[AFighter4U]

Pac not allowing for Cotto to come 147lbs? rubbish. If Cotto wanted to he can but did not that's the difference. Just needs to pay the penalty and still keeps his belt if he wins.