If Pac is so fond of sanctioning rules why ignore them and fight for 147 belt at 145?

[Alibata]

Its funny but you are really the only one who sees it this way but let me end game you a bit



see this is the rub for me

It was never out of the blue. Your perception is of that but I know of how this went down and people let Floyds team know before this even was a point.



of course. I have stated that BOTH are being divas, BOTH are being selfish and BOTH should be at fault for not having this fight go down

Mayweather isnt out to save the sport we all know this. He wanted to ensure he had a level playing field period

on the other hand MOST Manny fans see it only as Mayweather's fault



a little but not much

why?

because no one really gave us a logical reason as to why

what we got

it weakens me
too soon to the fight
Floyd doesnt run the show
etc etc

we never got full disclosure as to why which led to ....speculation.



both screwed up

but to hear Manny's fans its all on Floyd

right?

Only in response to Floyd fans who put it all on Manny.

[Chuckguy]

Pac not allowing for Cotto to come 147lbs? rubbish. If Cotto wanted to he can but did not that's the difference. Just needs to pay the penalty and still keeps his belt if he wins.

tHAT IS because Cotto is a man and he wants to get paiod of course but he also wants to prove he fights the best
Pac isnt a man to test
and may isnt a man to compramise on the test
leave it at 24 days and random
sign it seal it deliver it
both are ***ing babies

[Deevel916]

Because there's no such thing as a 147lb belt. Its called a WW belt/title, and that weight class is anything between 141-147. Just because Cotto had to come in at 145 doesnt mean it wasnt a WW title bout.

Given the fact that Cotto comes in around 156-160 for a WW fight, all they were trying to do was level out the playing field since Manny would be much lighter and smaller than Cotto on fight night.

Cotto made the weight and said he felt great aftwerwards. Lets not make it seem as if Cotto was dehydrated.

This coming from a big Cotto fan.

[Chuckguy]

Only in response to Floyd fans who put it all on Manny.

You are full of it
if that were true you wouldnt be going back and forth with E cause he admits its both their faults so you answer is worth **** bro

[Eaner0919]

Quite simple. Its called negotiation. If the two parties can agree on the bout being at a certain weight thats within the weightclass criteria,then go. If not,dont go.

I fail to see why you cant understand this,you normally seem pretty bright.

again with the insults kind of weak but whatever it shows your maturity level

here is my line of thinking:

both Many and Cotto agreed to fight: awesome

both agreed to fight at 145 to make it happen: great MUCH respect to Cotto. Manny not so much BUT if Cotto agreed fine

WBC agrees to make a belt so someone can win a belt: laughable but whatever its not a major belt and I care less

Manny then petitions that Cotto's WBO belt be on the line: not cool when you have the champ not being allowed to use the rules on page 6 of the WBO handbook enabling him to weigh 147lbs. Since he already agreed upon the weight Miguel can either choose to risk the fight or say screw it and fight. He says screw it....warrior indeed Cotto is

thats where I have an issue. You should have never asked a champ to risk his belt without the luxury of being able to go along with the rules of the governing body

let me put it this way

had Cotto said no if they want my title then I want 147 what do you think the lash back would have been on him?

be honest

[AFighter4U]

when pac fought de la hoya both fighters compromised.

when pac fought Hatton there was no need to compromise cause pac felt at home on that division 140lbs.

Now people must know that catch weight with belt on the line has been in boxing for ages and is nothing new. Great matches where make cause of this arrangement between fighters this should not be a surprise to true boxing fans.

[Deevel916]

again with the insults kind of weak but whatever it shows your maturity level

here is my line of thinking:

both Many and Cotto agreed to fight: awesome

both agreed to fight at 145 to make it happen: great MUCH respect to Cotto. Manny not so much BUT if Cotto agreed fine

WBC agrees to make a belt so someone can win a belt: laughable but whatever its not a major belt and I care less

Manny then petitions that Cotto's WBO belt be on the line: not cool when you have the champ not being allowed to use the rules on page 6 of the WBO handbook enabling him to weigh 147lbs. Since he already agreed upon the weight Miguel can either choose to risk the fight or say screw it and fight. He says screw it....warrior indeed Cotto is

thats where I have an issue. You should have never asked a champ to risk his belt without the luxury of being able to go along with the rules of the governing body

let me put it this way

had Cotto said no if they want my title then I want 147 what do you think the lash back would have been on him?

be honest

Lets not get into what the "rules" are. If a fighter is allowed to enter the ring weighing 160lbs for a WW fight (141-147lbs), something is terribly wrong with the sport and its "rules".

[Eaner0919]

Lets not get into what the "rules" are. If a fighter is allowed to enter the ring weighing 160lbs for a WW fight (141-147lbs), something is terribly wrong with the sport and its "rules".

wait a minute LOL

so on one hand you are using the rules to tell me a WW fight is 141-147lbs

then you tell me not to get into what the "rules" are?

ok

and didn't you just shoot yourself in the foot?

if you are saying the "rules" suck then shouldn't it also suck when it comes to testing?

something may be terribly wrong with this sport but it should apply across the board and not for Manny's own convenience

[Ray*]

Lets not get into what the "rules" are. If a fighter is allowed to enter the ring weighing 160lbs for a WW fight (141-147lbs), something is terribly wrong with the sport and its "rules".

You can come in at whatever weight you want on fight night, And thats the rules of boxing. No where does it say a boxer can put a restriction on another boxer on what he can weight or not weight.

[Deevel916]

wait a minute LOL

so on one hand you are using the rules to tell me a WW fight is 141-147lbs

then you tell me not to get into what the "rules" are?

ok

and didn't you just shoot yourself in the foot?

if you are saying the "rules" suck then shouldn't it also suck when it comes to testing?

something may be terribly wrong with this sport but it should apply across the board and not for Manny's own convenience

Exactly! The way this sport is run is a damn joke. Rules are rules unless you're a superstar, or theres alot of money involved!