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  • Sweetxyience
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    #191
    Originally posted by Sugar Q
    Your forgot to mention PBF beat Baldo and Judah while everybody else moved up in weight. Floyd wanted Margarito and Cotto but Bob didn't wanna cooperate. So your logic is Floyd should've bent over for the sake of some BS fans and fought them anyway under Bob's conditions? So everything and everyone should bow down to Bob Arum to make a fight happen? One thing a intelligent fighter will know is his security and well being comes first then legacy and the fans. A smart fighter would clearly see where the greats went wrong and make the adjustments. I wonder if any of you all action fans are contributing to the great Hitman Hearns who's losing his house right now.
    Another Post come on dude look at Floyds last 10 opponents Phillip N'dou, Demarcus Corely (who), Henry Bruseles (who?), Arturo gatti (not elite), Sharmba mitchell (who), Zab Judah (no heart), Carlos Baldomir (12 losses), Oscar dela hoya (ill give him that one), Ricky Hatton (overrrated), Juan Manuel marquez ( never fought above 135)..is this pound 4 pound worthy .. all i hear is excuses from Floyd on why he's never fought any elite welterweight. Keep on drinking Floyd's

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    • Rome-By-Ko
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      #192
      Originally posted by Sugar Q
      Your forgot to mention PBF beat Baldo and Judah while everybody else moved up in weight. Floyd wanted Margarito and Cotto but Bob didn't wanna cooperate. So your logic is Floyd should've bent over for the sake of some BS fans and fought them anyway under Bob's conditions? So everything and everyone should bow down to Bob Arum to make a fight happen? One thing a intelligent fighter will know is his security and well being comes first then legacy and the fans. A smart fighter would clearly see where the greats went wrong and make the adjustments. I wonder if any of you all action fans are contributing to the great Hitman Hearns who's losing his house right now.
      LOLThat's to poor money management.No?I'm tired of the bull**** bob arum excuse.Listen Floyd wanted cotto and marga's when neither of them was ready cotto especially.the time to fight umm was after the Hatton fight did he or did he get tired and want to retire?

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      • Chief2ndzOnly!
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        #193
        Originally posted by romebyko
        The Hawk was a beast but to try to say leonerd ducked anybody com-on man he fought who he was soppose to fight.Nothing but respect for the hawk.
        Whats up Rome homie? I won't say SRL ducked anybody, but the press conference when he made the announcement of his 2nd retiremnt was the same presser that everyone thought that he was going to accept Marvin Hagler's challenge. Even Marvin himself thought he was finally going to get a shot at SRL, and to the surprise of everyone there(Ray's camp included) Ray retires on the spot. Now SRL is one of my all time favorites, and he did eventually fight Marvin; but he was looked at(at the time) as ducking Marvelous Marvin Hagler. I do think he should've fought Aaron, I think he would've beat him.

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        • Chief2ndzOnly!
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          #194
          Originally posted by romebyko
          LOL Style's make's fight's Mayorga beat forest for the lineal championship Spink's beat Mayorga Judah beat Spink's and Baldy beat Judah and then Mayweather beat Baldy.Oh yea and the time to fight marga's and cotto would have been right after cotto beat shane and marga's beat cintron.They were closing in fast and were more ready then when he want to fight umm a few year's before no?But then May got tired and wanted to retire pretty convenient.NO?
          But why does Floyd have to wait for everybody to be ready for him? In Boxing if an established name comes looking for you, you fight him. Anything can happen on the way up the ranks. When oppurtunity knocks the 1st time you answer the door, right?

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            #195
            Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly!
            But why does Floyd have to wait for everybody to be ready for him? In Boxing if an established name comes looking for you, you fight him. Anything can happen on the way up the ranks. When oppurtunity knocks the 1st time you answer the door, right?
            Hey what's going on Chiefy.Nope not if you not ready.If you have a promising career ahead of you why risk taking a lost early in your career.Floyd would have got full credit if he fought cotto after the mosley fight cotto was ready for that.No?If he would have fought cotto at 140 Cotto would have been another name that nobody respected right?Tito beat reid but never got maxim credit right?Cotto could have been better but the brick beating ended his boxing career sadly.

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              #196
              Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly!
              Whats up Rome homie? I won't say SRL ducked anybody, but the press conference when he made the announcement of his 2nd retiremnt was the same presser that everyone thought that he was going to accept Marvin Hagler's challenge. Even Marvin himself thought he was finally going to get a shot at SRL, and to the surprise of everyone there(Ray's camp included) Ray retires on the spot. Now SRL is one of my all time favorites, and he did eventually fight Marvin; but he was looked at(at the time) as ducking Marvelous Marvin Hagler. I do think he should've fought Aaron, I think he would've beat him.
              I hear you but srl was hof bound and had proved everything he needed to when he retired the first time.When May retired the question's was about to start being ask the real ww was closing in.But he did not answer it.Arum would not have had a choice but to make that fight happen right?

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                #197
                Originally posted by champ_kw
                Ummm....I'm having a hard time believing this Arum fed propaganda. Step away from your hate/love of a fighter and be realistic. Was there really 8 million for Floyd on the table? At the height of Margarito's success (after the Cotto win) he himself made 1 million and some change. You mean to tell me Arum would have thrown 8 million to an opponent who's not in his stable at a time Margarito was fresh off an ESPN appearance? The TOTAL pot wasn't even that much for Shane vs Marg. I'm all for arguing for my fighter....but not at the expense of disregarding all common sense.
                Yes there would have been 8mill on the table Floyd was a draw at that time marga's was a real threat so the fight would have sold.

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                • GRUSTLER
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Sweetxyience
                  Another Post come on dude look at Floyds last 10 opponents Phillip N'dou, Demarcus Corely (who), Henry Bruseles (who?), Arturo gatti (not elite), Sharmba mitchell (who), Zab Judah (no heart), Carlos Baldomir (12 losses), Oscar dela hoya (ill give him that one), Ricky Hatton (overrrated), Juan Manuel marquez ( never fought above 135)..is this pound 4 pound worthy .. all i hear is excuses from Floyd on why he's never fought any elite welterweight. Keep on drinking Floyd's
                  OK, why don't you name Manny Pacquiao's last 10 opponents
                  and make sure that you put a weight drained Oscar and a
                  way overrated Ricky Hatton and ask yourself why is Manny
                  considered the best? Don't forget to add a weak champ at 135
                  David Diaz and a Miguel Cotto at 145. All of Floyd's opponents
                  were either champions or contenders. Can't front on Floyd's
                  opponents and give everyone else a pass for fighting scrubbier
                  guys.

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by romebyko
                    Yes there would have been 8mill on the table Floyd was a draw at that time marga's was a real threat so the fight would have sold.
                    Have you even read my sig? Why do people keep bringing up
                    Margarito? The fights with him and Cotto would have been made
                    if Arum came correct on his business bottom line. Why is that
                    so hard to accept. What kind of skill set did Margarito and Cotto
                    have at that time for Floyd to duck them? Cotto wasn't even ready
                    to get in the ring with Floyd so why would he be scared to fight him?
                    Margarito to me has always been an overrated, limited fighter.
                    Floyd is the kind of person that if the business and money is right
                    then it's on. I will tell you who really ducked a fighter. Manny Pacquiao
                    ducking Floyd Mayweather Jr. If you consider Floyd not fighting
                    Cotto/Margarito a duck then there is no way you can give Pacquiao
                    a pass for what happened with Floyd.
                    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-12-2010, 09:50 AM. Reason: Correction.

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                    • odogg8121
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by amayseng
                      floyd has been saying this for years, marg was there, cotto, and pwill. he did not fight them.
                      i give him props for fighting shane now as it is the best fight.

                      i do think it is pacs fault the fight didnt get made, however, for years floyd has been saying he is the best and the elite when he has had a chance to prove it he didnt.

                      it is ashame because he is one of the most natural and skilled boxers i have ever seen. he just doesnt deserve to parade around saying he is the best.

                      hagler hearns leonard duran and all those guys fault eachother, the best out there....

                      shane has never ducked anyone, on the other hand floyd has been choosey, and that is a fact

                      Shane ducked PBF twice so i guess that dont count tho huh

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