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  • Rome-By-Ko
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    #181
    Originally posted by jtiger78
    so you are telling me aaron pryor wasnt a big fish?????????? this has to be a joke! ray actually ran from pryor he switched wieght classes and all, pryor knocked him down in sparring and beat many top fighter he deserved a shot and ray leonard denied him!!!! but at the same time pryor was dirty as hell so i guess ill give you the win on this one it was bigger fights for ray at the time being that the year pryor won his first title ray leonard was fighting duran... now as far as if mayweather wanted to box cotto and marg he could have have u ever heard of owners managers and promoters? they are usually old white men and u cant do anything without their giving u the go ahead its not as simple as just saying i want to fight him and then yall get in the ring, i wish it was this way but it isnt! i would like to see may fight the best for his last fights though i agree...
    The Hawk was a beast but to try to say leonerd ducked anybody com-on man he fought who he was soppose to fight.Nothing but respect for the hawk.

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      #182
      Originally posted by mrjoeblive
      hey rome i dig your post but i dissagree with you. arum did not want cotto getting in the ring with floyd because he knew cotto didnt have the experiance to deal with floyd and he didnt want his young meal ticket to get his confidence taken. look at what happened to cotto after the margs fight. arum pushed him to the curb and jocked (yes i said jocked) margarito. also arum did not want to participate in helping floyd make any money. look at the pac failed negotiations. arum wanted to make floyd look bad thats why they had the clottey fight wrapped up before they were through with money. and no fighter has ever fought all his supposed threats in todays game. i can name plenty of fights pac avoided/ducked he has NOT fought the best and never gets called on it.
      Pac came up in the weightclasses faster then May.May had about three or four fight's at 140lb two at 147 and one at 154 if I'm not mistaken.But out of all those fight's who was elite?Who was the dangerous fight?I'll give him Hoya but who else?

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        #183
        Originally posted by slipjab73
        Baldi had a belt and Margarito didn't. Who would you fight, the belt holder or the belt contender? Mayweather called out De La Hoya when he was a lightweight and said he would move up but he did it over time. Mosley would have done better against Wright and Forrest had he had at least 2 fights at JMW before he fought the best in that division. Its all about timing and stategy. Mayweather knows his body better than Mosley knew his.
        NO Moses was challenging himself against bigger guy's mosley's body is like a lightweight.He just fought the best out there for him.What does get to me is when people say mayweather is smart for fighting the fight's he fought.So is shane let me tell you if mosley beat's mayweather mosley legacy will be better then mayweather's even if May only lost once you know why?Cause Mosley has been challenging himself.Mayweather look's like he might be warming up to the task now I hope so.

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          #184
          Originally posted by jtiger78
          TRUEa also didnt zab have a belt or was the top in the division at the time also?
          LOL Style's make's fight's Mayorga beat forest for the lineal championship Spink's beat Mayorga Judah beat Spink's and Baldy beat Judah and then Mayweather beat Baldy.Oh yea and the time to fight marga's and cotto would have been right after cotto beat shane and marga's beat cintron.They were closing in fast and were more ready then when he want to fight umm a few year's before no?But then May got tired and wanted to retire pretty convenient.NO?

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            #185
            Originally posted by mrjoeblive
            hey rome i dig your post but i dissagree with you. arum did not want cotto getting in the ring with floyd because he knew cotto didnt have the experiance to deal with floyd and he didnt want his young meal ticket to get his confidence taken. look at what happened to cotto after the margs fight. arum pushed him to the curb and jocked (yes i said jocked) margarito. also arum did not want to participate in helping floyd make any money. look at the pac failed negotiations. arum wanted to make floyd look bad thats why they had the clottey fight wrapped up before they were through with money. and no fighter has ever fought all his supposed threats in todays game. i can name plenty of fights pac avoided/ducked he has NOT fought the best and never gets called on it.
            Manny has ducked many and will never be called on it because for some odd ass reason he's a media baby. Floyd is the best fighter and biggest draw but Manny (the same dude that refuses to come clean) is the media baby. What kinda **** is that? Dude ducked the whole light-wt division and has fought 3 highly tainted fighters then gets called P4P the best. BULL****!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              #186
              Originally posted by romebyko
              LOL Style's make's fight's Mayorga beat forest for the lineal championship Spink's beat Mayorga Judah beat Spink's and Baldy beat Judah and then Mayweather beat Baldy.Oh yea and the time to fight marga's and cotto would have been right after cotto beat shane and marga's beat cintron.They were closing in fast and were more ready then when he want to fight umm a few year's before no?But then May got tired and wanted to retire pretty convenient.NO?
              Your forgot to mention PBF beat Baldo and Judah while everybody else moved up in weight. Floyd wanted Margarito and Cotto but Bob didn't wanna cooperate. So your logic is Floyd should've bent over for the sake of some BS fans and fought them anyway under Bob's conditions? So everything and everyone should bow down to Bob Arum to make a fight happen? One thing a intelligent fighter will know is his security and well being comes first then legacy and the fans. A smart fighter would clearly see where the greats went wrong and make the adjustments. I wonder if any of you all action fans are contributing to the great Hitman Hearns who's losing his house right now.

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                #187
                Originally posted by romebyko
                Listen May made really good moves as far bizzness wise.But I will say this again he could have fought margas and cotto if he wanted to.While still making a butt load of money.No?He fought baldy for 8 mill and could have fought margas for the same amount.No?You just said he needed time to grow into a ww body right. Mosley was fighting Hoya at ww when May called him out how does that work?Mosley would have fought pwill if he had not already fought those kinds of fights.If you don't know what I mean forest and winky who whould fight them before mosley?I think May is talented great fight but I just think he cheats us the fans and him self.But I thank him greatly for the may 1 fight

                Ummm....I'm having a hard time believing this Arum fed propaganda. Step away from your hate/love of a fighter and be realistic. Was there really 8 million for Floyd on the table? At the height of Margarito's success (after the Cotto win) he himself made 1 million and some change. You mean to tell me Arum would have thrown 8 million to an opponent who's not in his stable at a time Margarito was fresh off an ESPN appearance? The TOTAL pot wasn't even that much for Shane vs Marg. I'm all for arguing for my fighter....but not at the expense of disregarding all common sense.

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                • slipjab73
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by romebyko
                  NO Moses was challenging himself against bigger guy's mosley's body is like a lightweight.He just fought the best out there for him.What does get to me is when people say mayweather is smart for fighting the fight's he fought.So is shane let me tell you if mosley beat's mayweather mosley legacy will be better then mayweather's even if May only lost once you know why?Cause Mosley has been challenging himself.Mayweather look's like he might be warming up to the task now I hope so.
                  Its one thig to challenge yourself and its another to put yourself in a no win position. Mosely has a much more muscular body build than Mayweather so he can carry more weight than Mayweather. I still say Mosley moved up too soon and didn't give his body the normal adjustment time when putting on more muscle. Mayweather will have his own legacy just like Mosley will have his. People will remember Mayweather for his level of boxing skill because its one that doesn't come along very often.

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                  • Sweetxyience
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by M.I.C.
                    He should and will stick to his demands, random drug testing is good for the sport, Floyd has also shown quite easily that he doesn't need Manny Pacquiao to make a 40 million payday. He's doing that right now with Mosley.



                    Your an idiot for saying random drug testing is good for the sport. First off these aren't the Olympics and second the Commission already has testing. Are you saying the commission isn't good enough. Were you saying this before Floyd made his demands? I'd say no...no one was. Its never good to bring the PED's discussion into your sport. Look at all the other sports who have been in front of congress. Negative publicity.

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                    • slipjab73
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Sweetxyience
                      Your an idiot for saying random drug testing is good for the sport. First off these aren't the Olympics and second the Commission already has testing. Are you saying the commission isn't good enough. Were you saying this before Floyd made his demands? I'd say no...no one was. Its never good to bring the PED's discussion into your sport. Look at all the other sports who have been in front of congress. Negative publicity.
                      So its ok to test amateur athletes but not professionals who have much more to gain? All sports should be tested for PEDs. Boxing needs a wake up call.

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