Can Wladimir Klitschko break Joe Louis's 25 title defense record?

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  • americanbot
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    #51
    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
    LMAO!! The great that had the bum of the month title. This is the curse with non American greats.
    the "bums of the month" were 20 times better then the fat slop of today......these guys actually dreamed of DYING in the ring.

    know you're boxing midget..........

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    • Welsh Jon
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      #52
      Originally posted by hweightblogger
      Streaks are offtopic here.

      Wlad already broke Louis record. Louis won 8x in real heavyweight fights.

      Nobody can seriously consider Billy Conn (174 lbs = sub cruiser) or Red Burman (188 lbs, who started at 148 lbs) a title defense comparable to real massive heavyweight.

      Compare apples to apples.

      Wlad long time ago surpassed Louis' heavyweight title wins.

      He surpassed Lennox, next he will surpass Ali's and then Larry Holmes.

      Actually when you delete sub-heavies and bums off the record (= those who lose 25% or more of their fights) Wlad has already surpassed ANY OTHER heavyweight champ in history, because Holmes had his title fights padded with bums like Ocasio (23-13) and Ali with bums like Coopman (36-16)




      name..............|title.wins|title.wins.heavyweig ht.200x2|title.wins.non-bums
      Wladimir.Klitschko|17........|17.................. ........|16.................
      Lennox.Lewis......|15........|15.................. ........|15.................
      Muhammad.Ali......|22........|19.................. ........|13.................
      Mike.Tyson........|12........|12.................. ........|9..................
      George.Foreman....|5.........|4................... ........|4..................
      Rocky.Marciano....|7.........|0................... ........|0..................
      Joe.Louis.........|26........|8................... ........|7..................
      Evander.Holyfield.|10........|10.................. ........|9..................
      Larry.Holmes......|20........|20.................. ........|13.................



      Get over it. Nobody has such a good record like Wladimir. And I didn't even count the KOs here.
      Are you actually trying to claim that Wlad has faced harder opposition than any heavyweight fighter in history? Cos that's pretty laughable.

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      • Mr. Fantastic
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        #53
        Originally posted by americanbot
        the "bums of the month" were 20 times better then the fat slop of today......these guys actually dreamed of DYING in the ring.

        know you're boxing midget..........
        Yea ok, and they were better because they wanted to die in the ring. Oh my, such a thing that boxers today don't show that lol.

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        • Mr. Fantastic
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          #54
          Originally posted by Welsh Jon
          Are you actually trying to claim that Wlad has faced harder opposition than any heavyweight fighter in history? Cos that's pretty laughable.
          As a Calzaghe fan you shouldn't have no room to talk. I like both Calzaghe and the Klits.

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          • Marcov
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            #55
            Big difference between 25 straight defenses of the undisputed title and what we are seeing now.

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            • Welsh Jon
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              #56
              Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
              As a Calzaghe fan you shouldn't have no room to talk. I like both Calzaghe and the Klits.
              I'm pretty sure being a Calzaghe fan doesn't invalidate my opinion.

              If I said Calzaghe had fought better opposition than Sugar Ray Robinson I would be quite rightly laughed at.

              A fan of Wlad that tries to say he fought better opposition than Ali should be laughed at.

              Wlad's a good champion. Ali he is not.

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              • Pirao
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                #57
                Originally posted by Marcov
                Big difference between 25 straight defenses of the undisputed title and what we are seeing now.
                Hmm no, back then there was only 1 title, it was much easier to be "undisputed", because it's not like the title was going to stay vacated until you beat 3 or 4 guys. That title is equal to being the #1 HW, and Wlad has been #1 for all of his reign, so...

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                • dammage7
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                  #58
                  i think klit should speed up to to get closer ot that record by fighting people like

                  1. holyfield
                  2. toney
                  3. mormeck

                  he can fit all these in 12 months and although are easy, will look good on his cv

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by dammage7
                    i think klit should speed up to to get closer ot that record by fighting people like

                    1. holyfield
                    2. toney
                    3. mormeck

                    he can fit all these in 12 months and although are easy, will look good on his cv
                    Both Klitschkos have said several times that they'll never fight Holyfield unless he becomes a mandatory, they have too much respect to fight a washed-up version of him and beat him up.

                    Toney and Mormeck would be jokes.

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                    • dammage7
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Pirao
                      Both Klitschkos have said several times that they'll never fight Holyfield unless he becomes a mandatory, they have too much respect to fight a washed-up version of him and beat him up.

                      Toney and Mormeck would be jokes.

                      would be fun to watch them beat up holyfield though...cos thats only way he will retire, unless he asks for a rematch!!!!!!! LOL

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