Is Pacquiao a fraud?

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  • - JCHING -
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    #51
    Originally posted by soyotoyapex
    so whose concerned about bigger fighters>?
    Errmm, Pacquiao?

    He wanted Mosley to come down to 142 to fight, because he's too big and too good.

    He chose a catchweight for Cotto.

    He won't fight Mayweather because he is bigger than him and so that means the tests will be an advantage to Mayweather - that excuse doesn't even make sense.

    Pacquiao and his camp are concerned with the size and weight of fighters they face - yet they were out weighing most of the guys they fought by 6-7 lbs sometimes.

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    • Akyra
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      #52
      hehe. the poll speaks for itself.

      if you want to know the results of a "mayweather is a fraud" poll, no need to create one, just flip the amount of no with yes.

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        #53
        Innocent until proven guilty. legend.

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          #54
          Originally posted by - JCHING -
          Watch the video. I'm talking about weight.

          Pacquiao outweighed most of the guys in the lower divisions including Morales, JMM, Barrera and yes, he outweighed ODLH.

          At 135, Pac weighed 147 on the night - Floyd at 135 weighed 138.

          They're so concerned about fighters being bigger than Pac, yet Pac fought most of his career out weighing his opponents by 6-7 lbs.



          does having 6 to 7 lbs advantages means you're fighting a smaller fighter?

          by your logic, Cotto fought a smaller fighter in Pacquiao

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            #55
            Originally posted by MaD vEiN


            does having 6 to 7 lbs advantages means you're fighting a smaller fighter?

            by your logic, Cotto fought a smaller fighter in Pacquiao
            *****s can be too illogical as long as they are able to defend floyd

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              #56
              Originally posted by MaD vEiN


              does having 6 to 7 lbs advantages means you're fighting a smaller fighter?

              by your logic, Cotto fought a smaller fighter in Pacquiao
              Yea, Cotto did fight a smaller fighter in Pacquiao, did he not?

              Pacquiao and his camp don't want him being outweighed too much by his opponents, hence the request of catchweights.

              My point was, Pacquiao gets the credit for fighting bigger guys, more than Mayweather does, when in fact Mayweather has fought guys who outweighed him by 10-20lbs, and Pac has outweighed his opponents for most of his career.

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                #57
                Originally posted by soyotoyapex
                *****s can be too illogical as long as they are able to defend floyd
                I'm not a *****, but point out to me where my logic is flawed?

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                  #58
                  to a certain agree. he is a very good fighter, and extremely talented. but he still hasnt proven himself to be a great fighter. watching the road to dallas they were talking about how he had this great run in the last couple of years, its all hype.

                  oscar was washed up and drained
                  hatton was over the hill and not all that good to begin with
                  cotto was mentally shot, had all the fight beaten out of him already
                  marquez beat him twice

                  .. so much for the great run. hes fought well dont get me wrong but the oposition hasnt been what its hyped up to be. arum did a great job of picking the right fights. hes avoided several fighters who would give pac stylistic problems, sticking to guys who come in straight lines, stand right in front of him and try to overpower him. or guys who "like to fight" as roach puts it. ppl with lateral movement, headmovement, speed, and other things that would present him problems have been avoided.

                  to be a great fighter u have to take on all styles and be able to adapt, not just fight the same type of oponent over and over. all he needs is floyd, bradley campbell or someone who presents him with something new to prove he can deal with that. just like mayweather need one or two top fighters to prove hes a great fighter. they are both in the same boat. very good, extremely talented fighters on the verge of greatness, but still has something to prove.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by - JCHING -
                    Yea, Cotto did fight a smaller fighter in Pacquiao, did he not?

                    Pacquiao and his camp don't want him being outweighed too much by his opponents, hence the request of catchweights.

                    My point was, Pacquiao gets the credit for fighting bigger guys, more than Mayweather does, when in fact Mayweather has fought guys who outweighed him by 10-20lbs, and Pac has outweighed his opponents for most of his career.
                    so why does Pacquiao fighting welterweights if you claim that he's smaller?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by MaD vEiN
                      so why does Pacquiao fighting welterweights if you claim that he's smaller?
                      I'm talking about the majority of his career. Not the 1 fight he has had at WW.

                      He fought Cotto at a catchweight to prevent him from being too big - no other reason for that catchweight.

                      Mayweather fought ODLH at 154, and he got outweighed by 20lbs that night.

                      Mayweather has fought more bigger guys than Pac. That is a fact, but Pacquiao gets more credit for fighting bigger guys. Doesn't make sense.

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