Is Pacquiao a fraud?

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  • cooper5
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    #41
    Originally posted by Nike Phats
    I find it ironic how Pac fans conveniently dodge threads such as this.
    Everybody is avoiding threads like this. I only read through it to see who are the people that keep bringing this stuff up, over and over again. You guys should get a clue. Manny is fighting Clottey and Mayweather is fighting Mosley!

    It is time you guys moved on too!

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      #42
      Originally posted by cooper5
      Everybody is avoiding threads like this. I only read through it to see who are the people that keep bringing this stuff up, over and over again. You guys should get a clue. Manny is fighting Clottey and Mayweather is fighting Mosley!

      It is time you guys moved on too!
      The video isn't about Pac vs. Mayweather.

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      • PensionKiller
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        #43
        This can be done for any fighter. Pac's wins do have questions over them, I agree, but he ebat them up like no mofo has ever done.

        Oscar was already in decline before. Floyd even negotiated a rematch lol.

        Hatton at 147 was ugly VS Collazo. Mayweather called him a bum.

        JMM AT 147? they made it 144 to make it fair.

        Mosely has 5 loses.

        Then there are fighters like Hatton who have OK resumes.

        Castillo shot kind of.

        Kosta old and inactive.

        Unrango green.

        Malliagi had no power to hurt that chin.

        Any fighter you want, there will always be criticism on their resume.
        Last edited by PensionKiller; 03-08-2010, 05:28 AM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Nike Phats
          The video isn't about Pac vs. Mayweather.
          I just looked at your last ten posts and almost all are about Pacman and drug testing, you are one of the ones exactly I was meaning!

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            #45
            Originally posted by MCVAGINA
            Your very ******.....

            De La Hoya beat Chavez when he was 100-1 and had avenged his only controversial loss. Chavez was also not weight drained when Oscar fought him. He was still in his prime

            Pacquiao is very different. He fought many shot/past prime/weight drained fighters.

            Hatton - Destroyed by Mayweather and nearly KO'd by Lazcano
            De La Hoya - Drained to death by Freddie "Yeah Drain Em" Roach
            Cotto - Destroyed by Margarito who was destroyed by Mosley

            Why didnt Pacquiao fight Mosley???????????????????????????



            end of ****** thread

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              #46
              This video is actually speaking alot of truth.

              Pacquiao has been fighting smaller guys most of his career, and Mayweather has been fighting bigger guys - sometimes being out weighed by 10-20 lbs!

              But who gets the credit for fighting bigger guys?

              I personally don't give too much credit to Pacquiao for his last 4 fights. The last fight I give him full credit for is the JMM fight, because JMM is tough stylistically for him, he wasn't weight drained, past prime or any of that. It was a tough fight for him and he won. I give him credit for taking risks in that fight.

              But as that video exposed, once Pacquiao got some leverage, he stopped taking risks. If the guy is too big - catchweight. If the guy seems past it - fight them.

              Asking Mosley to come down to 142 for them to fight him because he is too good, but then fighting an even bigger guy in Clottey at 147 because the styles match up well - that's not right.

              I still rate him as an ATG for his fights in the lower divisions, but I'm not buying into everything he's doing at the moment.

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                #47
                Originally posted by - JCHING -
                This video is actually speaking alot of truth.

                Pacquiao has been fighting smaller guys most of his career, and Mayweather has been fighting bigger guys - sometimes being out weighed by 10-20 lbs!

                But who gets the credit for fighting bigger guys?

                I personally don't give too much credit to Pacquiao for his last 4 fights. The last fight I give him full credit for is the JMM fight, because JMM is tough stylistically for him, he wasn't weight drained, past prime or any of that. It was a tough fight for him and he won. I give him credit for taking risks in that fight.

                But as that video exposed, once Pacquiao got some leverage, he stopped taking risks. If the guy is too big - catchweight. If the guy seems past it - fight them.

                Asking Mosley to come down to 142 for them to fight him because he is too good, but then fighting an even bigger guy in Clottey at 147 because the styles match up well - that's not right.

                I still rate him as an ATG for his fights in the lower divisions, but I'm not buying into everything he's doing at the moment.
                who are those smaller fighters Pac faced?

                i'll wait

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by - JCHING -
                  This video is actually speaking alot of truth.

                  Pacquiao has been fighting smaller guys most of his career, and Mayweather has been fighting bigger guys - sometimes being out weighed by 10-20 lbs!

                  But who gets the credit for fighting bigger guys?

                  I personally don't give too much credit to Pacquiao for his last 4 fights. The last fight I give him full credit for is the JMM fight, because JMM is tough stylistically for him, he wasn't weight drained, past prime or any of that. It was a tough fight for him and he won. I give him credit for taking risks in that fight.

                  But as that video exposed, once Pacquiao got some leverage, he stopped taking risks. If the guy is too big - catchweight. If the guy seems past it - fight them.

                  Asking Mosley to come down to 142 for them to fight him because he is too good, but then fighting an even bigger guy in Clottey at 147 because the styles match up well - that's not right.

                  I still rate him as an ATG for his fights in the lower divisions, but I'm not buying into everything he's doing at the moment.
                  DLH smaller than PAC ? There's a serious problem here

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by soyotoyapex
                    DLH smaller than PAC ? There's a serious problem here
                    Watch the video. I'm talking about weight.

                    Pacquiao outweighed most of the guys in the lower divisions including Morales, JMM, Barrera and yes, he outweighed ODLH.

                    At 135, Pac weighed 147 on the night - Floyd at 135 weighed 138.

                    They're so concerned about fighters being bigger than Pac, yet Pac fought most of his career out weighing his opponents by 6-7 lbs.
                    Last edited by - JCHING -; 03-08-2010, 06:08 AM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by - JCHING -
                      Watch the video. I'm talking about weight.

                      Pacquiao outweighed most of the guys in the lower divisions including Morales, JMM, Barrera and yes, he outweighed ODLH.

                      At 135, Pac weighed 147 on the night - Floyd at 135 weighed 138.

                      They're so concerned about fighters being bigger than Pac, yet Pac fought most of his career out weighing his opponents by 6-7 lbs.

                      so whose concerned about bigger fighters>?

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