Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Mosley Can't Get Mad at Mayweather

[iloveboxing2]

That was a good analogy...

Lets just hope that Cayote Shane uses his energy the way he's suppose to...if Jr. opens up and gets a little offensive..he must take advantage of it..jr. usually don't makes a mistake..his record shows it...if it comes he must,,I mean MUST take the risk....reward will be very gratifying!

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the game plan is easy.

if floyd potshots and runs: jab floyd to the ropes. then unload punches up and down. rinse and repeat.

if floyd decides to fight on the inside: use your superior strength to bully floyd around.

if mosley can get floyd to be aggressive, that will be a great gameplan because floyd will open himself up to get hit. But I dunno if floyd will do that against a bigger and stronger opponent. I mean, floyd didn't even get aggressive against a blown up lightweight[/QUOTE]

[Pullcounter]

Floyd has called Cotto out since he was coming up to 140 from 135 and Cotto was already at 140. Cotto was out on his feet against Corley who PBF pretty much handled. Of course most of those fighters would say Floyd is the best because he is. You don't see Manny running recklessly to fight Floyd like he does the other guys there's a reason behind that. If Floyd is such a soft puncher and all defense why aren't fighters lining up to face him? Because they know when you get between those ropes it's a whole different story.

well...

corley also had pbf rocked...

pac doesn't choose his opponents, arum does apparently

actually everyone wants to fight floyd... guaranteed big purse + minimal chance of getting KTFO

I would not say never he just did not wanna fight him when he wanted him to fight him.Cotto was ready to fight after judah or mosley fight but money retired.no?

you are correct, floyd retired instead of fighting cotto. the best time to fight cotto was after the judah and mosley fights as cotto was riding high on the hype. but at that time cotto was looking like a monster so I could see why...

Reverse that. Floyd has been chasing Mosley since he was at 135.

well, i'm just glad they are fighting now

It's amazing to me how everyone is neglecting this part of Shane's game. It will be the key to the fight. With those long arms, he might give Floyd the same kind of trouble Oscar did with the jab. And Shane's jab isn't bad. he flicks it but mixes in some hard jabs in the there. It can really throw you off your game. I'm sure he'll utilize this weapon throughout. What his gameplan will be behind that jab remains to be seen.

shane's jab isn't as good as oscars.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I sent this to you in a message homie, but IDK if you got it so Imma post it again incase you aint get.

I'm doing well my potna, I hope all is fine with you as well. Thanks for the response mayne. To answer your question; I WISH I was a trainer(I love boxing that much). But unfortunately I am not. I pay very close attention to boxers and their styles and to the sport of Boxing in general.

Brother Naz needs to have 4 seperate game plans IMHO, because of how well Floyd adapts. I agree with Shane possibly controlling the 1st 4 rounds, but thats not going to be enough.

You right some do forget about Mosley's jab, but there is a reason fo that I think; and thats because he often abandons it. I am going to review both Mosley's and Floyd's previous bouts because when I am talking boxing with ya'll I am going off of memory(things that I remember seeing from the fights when I watched them or revisited them months after they have happened). Your plan sounds like a good one for Shane. As far as Shane being in tough IDK so much if it's that or more of Shane making things harder than they had to be. There i no way Shane should have had the problems he had with Mayorga. Mayorga just came off win over and overweight under trained Fernando Vargas, and before that He was lumped up and discarded by the same ODH that Shane scuffed up about 3 years earlier. So unless ****m has worked with Shane in the stamina department(and we dont know that yet, but I imagine that he has, the man works miracles), plan B,C,and D(if they decide to plan that way)will be out the window; and Shane's mexican boxing roots will show ie. he will operate in a swarming manner(not good...means that punches are coming too wide from him). But I do see where you was goin with it potna.

What's good with you Chiefy.Love the post as alway's.Just wanted to remind you mayorga was damn near a lightheavy 170 pound's the night of the fight.Mayorga was damn near a light heavy and has a very awkward style.No?Maybe that played into why mosley was a lil slugish?

[Tweezy316]

Man all these so called experts in here talkin about gameplans and stuff. Yall don't know nothin. You guys aren't gonna be in the ring on May 1st so what you talkin for? Just shut up and like T.O. said get your popcorn ready. Everybody talkin about what Shane has to do as if someone has done it Mayweather and been sucessful at it. Like Mayweather said they've tried everything to him. And nothing has worked. People say what they want about Mayweather outside the ring. But he handles his business inside the ring. And his work ethic is 2nd to none. And I don't think Shane at 39 with over a year from his last fight will be able to out train Mayweather even if he wanted to. I think you guys are livin off the past too much. You say Shane has had the tougher opponents. That was then this is now. And that's just your opinion. Stop talkin about Brother Naz as if he's Jesus. He can make any game plan he wants but as far as him thinking that game plan will work that's just his opinion. And even if it was the right game plan Shane still has to execute it. And one more thing. Please stop talkin about Mayweather gettin KO'd for goodness sake he's never even been knocked down. And yet you're talkin about him gettin knocked out. People talk about what Oscar was able to do. What did Oscar do? Land 21% of his punches. Is that what he gets praised for? People are crazy.

[Sugar Q]

well...

corley also had pbf rocked...

pac doesn't choose his opponents, arum does apparently

actually everyone wants to fight floyd... guaranteed big purse + minimal chance of getting KTFO

you are correct, floyd retired instead of fighting cotto. the best time to fight cotto was after the judah and mosley fights as cotto was riding high on the hype. but at that time cotto was looking like a monster so I could see why...

well, i'm just glad they are fighting now
shane's jab isn't as good as oscars.

Floyd was momentarily stung by Corley but the ref could've stopped the Corley/Cotto fight. Cotto was out on his feet.

People may talk slick about fighting Floyd but I don't see many serious contenders at 147.

You fight the best when you get the chance not when you want to. Why would Cotto be ready for Corley but not for Floyd? Floyd went where the huge money was and if Cotto would've beaten Pac Floyd would be fighting him right now. Even though I hope it doesn't happen cause I like both fighters it can still happen if Cotto is successful @154.

PBF/Mos is gonna be a great fight no doubt.

[Rome-By-Ko]

This is why I thought we came here tho conversate for, but I guess I was wrong. I will respect their views though and reserve posts like that for those who want to know what I think. No big deal to me homie. I see alot of knowledgable folks on here to include yourself who welcome my train of thought.

Fosure sometime's you have to school these dude's with the name calling and flat out no class.But for the guy's on here who can relay what they opinion is without taking it there i have love and respect for all you.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

I would not say never he just did not wanna fight him when he wanted him to fight him.Cotto was ready to fight after judah or mosley fight but money retired.no?

Well not exactly Rome. Cotto fought Zab around the time Floyd fought Oscar. Which fight made more since at the time, a well established ODH at 154 or a brand new WW in Cotto? Sounds like Floyd was doing what most have praised Manny for(not trying to start a fight with that one,LOL, just using it as a point of reference), you can take Floyd's move to fight Oscar and look at it as a power move no just for money(As he would lead you to believe) but also legacy(Oscar did have the green WBC belt at 154......who doesnt want the green belt???????).

[Sugar Q]

Man all these so called experts in here talkin about gameplans and stuff. Yall don't know nothin. You guys aren't gonna be in the ring on May 1st so what you talkin for? Just shut up and like T.O. said get your popcorn ready. Everybody talkin about what Shane has to do as if someone has done it Mayweather and been sucessful at it. Like Mayweather said they've tried everything to him. And nothing has worked. People say what they want about Mayweather outside the ring. But he handles his business inside the ring. And his work ethic is 2nd to none. And I don't think Shane at 39 with over a year from his last fight will be able to out train Mayweather even if he wanted to. I think you guys are livin off the past too much. You say Shane has had the tougher opponents. That was then this is now. And that's just your opinion. Stop talkin about Brother Naz as if he's Jesus. He can make any game plan he wants but as far as him thinking that game plan will work that's just his opinion. And even if it was the right game plan Shane still has to execute it. And one more thing. Please stop talkin about Mayweather gettin KO'd for goodness sake he's never even been knocked down. And yet you're talkin about him gettin knocked out. People talk about what Oscar was able to do. What did Oscar do? Land 21% of his punches. Is that what he gets praised for? People are crazy.

I'm a huge Shane fan as well as a PBF fan but on top of all you mentioned. Shane's nose is looking like he's involved in too many gym wars which is another huge problem for Shane. I don't know if anyone else has noticed but Shane's nose is looking real rough and beaten in right now.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

What's good with you Chiefy.Love the post as alway's.Just wanted to remind you mayorga was damn near a lightheavy 170 pound's the night of the fight.Mayorga was damn near a light heavy and has a very awkward style.No?Maybe that played into why mosley was a lil slugish?

Aint nothin Homie chillin like a villian. I can give you that, if you are implying that Mayorga's leaning on him made him sluggish. Mot think Mayorga was crazy but he as a fairly smart boxer.

[Tweezy316]

roger also ackowledged that they cannot knock shane out....pbf cannot simply move to keep shane off....shane is gonna touch him several times. even in pbf's best performances, he has been hit! lol keep in mind, when elite fights elite; there are changes in the numbers game. meaning; the things that floyd did so well vs, one of his opponents (that just made an annoucement that he is moving back to 135lbs) lol..he will not be able to do against shane....a stronger, bigger, or just as fast opponent. shane had this same issue years ago (vernon-winky) that floyd is gonna run into on may 1... but dont worry floyd fans,,,,,a lost is gonna do you and floyd some good. it will make him either challenge himself more or will make him crack....it we help you fellas in your recognoition of propaganda and make you more aware of what an all-around pound for pound #1 fighter should look like.

are you serious? why do you believe the hype youre going off of the old shane mosley. not the new shane mosley. Mosley looked fast against Margarito because Margarito is slow as hell and has no movement. He just plows forward and without his plaster was ineffective. And come on Shane is not that much bigger and stronger lol you make it sound like Floyd is fighting the Big Show except for real this time lol. And Shane is not as fast as Floyd we will all see this on May 1st. Even tho it sounds good now ummm no. I really think you're a ******* because you're english isn't that great. And we all know how *******s feel about floyd. The whole world almost wants Floyd to win so what does that mean? Does that mean Floyd will lose? NO but what it does mean is more money in his pocket from all the ppv buys. Floyd Mayweather JR. and the whole Mayweather Team thank you all much