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  • Boxing Scene
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    #21
    Originally posted by Kilrain
    Ruiz is a bum, Haye will handle him with ease.
    "With Ease."

    That's got to be the dumbest thing ever. You seriously think this is going to be an easy fight for Haye who wouldn't even engage Valuev, the lightest punching champion we have?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Songbird
      I wasnt that impressed with hayes performance either but he got the job done and i was impressed with the glancing shot that wobbled the giant
      Glancing blows that wobble giants don't make fights. Actually throwing punches does.

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      • BritishBoxing92
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        #23
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
        Former heavyweight champion John Ruiz is tired of David Haye talking about his big win over seven-foot Nikolai Valuev. Ruiz challenges Haye for his WBA heavyweight title on April 3 in Manchester. Ruiz said Haye barely threw any punches against Valuev and mostly ran for twelve rounds. He thinks Haye got the decision because of the fans who were in the crowd that were cheering him on with every punch.

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        says the guy who got kod in the first round by david tua...

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          #24
          Originally posted by BritishBoxing92
          says the guy who got kod in the first round by david tua...
          Says the guy who threw a record LOW punch output in a heavyweight title fight. That is facts my friend. I know it sucks, but you can't change history.

          Haye would get knocked the **** out by Tua as well and you know it.

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            #25
            Originally posted by #1Assassin
            boxing is about more than hard hitting my friend.

            there are few (if any) things more impressive in boxing than a fighter completely switching up his style, and thats what haye did. a great fighter needs to be able to adapt and haye showed against valuev he has the allround skills to be a real threat to any current HW.

            he had the perfect gameplan coming in but when he broke his hand he needed to adapt, so he did. he went from the punching style hes had in the pros and became a pure boxer, relying on his amateur background.

            he didnt run, its called lateral movement and is what he needed to take away the size factor.

            boxing is scored on 4 things.

            - clean effective punching
            - ring generalship
            - defense
            - effective aggression

            haye was fighting a much bigger man with one hand so he used defense and ring generalship to outpoint him. the way he used the ring, stayed of the ropes and dodged punches was beautiful. even though he didnt land alot he still landed the better shots and made valuev miss constantly not letting him score at all, meanwhile scoring on defense himself.

            it was a masterful display, anyone who can appreciate the sweet science and boxing in its purest form would be impressed by hayes performance.

            it wasnt the typical haye but thats a good thing, showing he can win fights in more than one way. we already know he has offense but now we know he has defense aswell and can control an oponent through outhinking him in addition to with the sheer threat of blunt force.
            Yes you are quite right; Haye obvious has "offense"..... In fact the way he toddled around "London Bridge" expecting it to fall down due to his shadow boxing and track prowess, was VERY offensive. To me anyway, as to most of the viewers.

            And then to try to fool us into believing he broke his hand, shows an egotistical childishness reminiscient of a self-deluding teenager with narcissic tendencies.

            And not a very bright one either.

            Where and when was the news printed that Haye had undergone surgery to repair his hand, I'd be happy to know about it??

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            • Kilrain
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              #26
              Originally posted by braddman
              "With Ease."

              That's got to be the dumbest thing ever. You seriously think this is going to be an easy fight for Haye who wouldn't even engage Valuev, the lightest punching champion we have?
              Yes, I seriously do. Nothing dumb about it. Haye will handle Ruiz like Toney and Jones did, using quick punches and movement. We all know Haye fought a certain way because he was in with a huge monster of a HW. Valuev has an iron jaw so you can't exactly steam in and try and knock him out. He has a hard head. Haye executed his gameplan, don't discredit him for that. What's so surprising about favouring a quick, hard puncher in his prime over a slow, lumbering John Ruiz?

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                #27
                Haye's performance certainly wasn't anything to shout about, it was actually pretty boring.

                He did break his right hand though, so i suppose i will let him off.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Kilrain
                  Yes, I seriously do. Nothing dumb about it. Haye will handle Ruiz like Toney and Jones did, using quick punches and movement. We all know Haye fought a certain way because he was in with a huge monster of a HW. Valuev has an iron jaw so you can't exactly steam in and try and knock him out. He has a hard head. Haye executed his gameplan, don't discredit him for that. What's so surprising about favouring a quick, hard puncher in his prime over a slow, lumbering John Ruiz?
                  Uh well Toney cheated against Ruiz, so you're saying Haye is gonna use steroids to beat him as well?

                  "Decision changed by NYSAC because Toney tested positive for a banned substance"

                  Roy Jones? Well that's just laughable you comparing David Haye to Roy Jones after that stinker fight against Valuev.

                  Don't act like Valuev is some "MONSTER" because Ruiz fought him toe to toe and never even got stunned.

                  Very piss poor arguement for a piss poor heavyweight.
                  Last edited by Boxing Scene; 03-04-2010, 10:30 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Precision
                    Haye's performance certainly wasn't anything to shout about, it was actually pretty boring.

                    He did break his right hand though, so i suppose i will let him off.
                    Not saying you did this, but Haye fans excuse is that he broke his hand in the second round.

                    Go watch the first round through the 12th and they all looked identical, so that excuse is out the window.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BritishBoxing92
                      says the guy who got kod in the first round by david tua...
                      Well, I have to defend Ruiz on that one. You say that like it's something shameful. Getting KO'd by David Tua in *any* round is nothing to be ashamed of. Tua hits as hard as anyone.

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