So who'll say Chambers is a bum if Wlad beats him?

[The Hammer]

Too bad the Klitschkos are not American and Black, because if they were, they'd be given full credit for their achievements and regarded as great fighters.

[The Hammer]

Looking on the outside you can see why this a mismatch. BUT Chambers as of right now is the best opponent who can beat Wladimir and I think he has a good shot, but Wladimir is an 8 to 1 favorite for a reason, and that reason is justified. But my prediction is Chambers pulls off the upset.

Chambers is no bum even if he loses to Wladimir.

Good post.

[The_Demon]

hes a skilled fighter but not skilled enough to make up for the massive size difference between him and wlad

[Heru]

Yeah, he ran while beating Arreola's face to a pulp.

World champions beat by the Klits (current, past or future):

Wlad: Chagaev, Rahman, Ibragimov, Brewster, Byrd x2, Peter, Mercer
Vitali: Gomez, Peter, Sanders, Hide

Plus all the top challengers at the time they've defeated, so yeah...

I give credit to Arreola, he came to fight and tried his best, unlike some others we know.

Do you see your list of former champions beat? Do you think it is worthy of a top 20 heavyweights of AT spot? Because we have clowns going around lauding them as worthy of one. I like Vitali so I'm going to spare him (for now).

Klitschko fans get mad when I say it, but the heavyweight division is garbage and it's not hard to see.

#1- Chagaev and Rahman were replacements that were coming off less than stellar performances and took the fight less than a month away from the fight date. Chagaev did not look good coming off his layoff against Carl Drummond and Rahman was buzzed and quit against a fat shot Toney.

#2- Brewster was coming off of more than a year of inactivity where he almost retired because he suffered a detached retina in his loss to Lyakovich.

#3- It's hard to give Wlad full credit against a Byrd that was coming off of consecutive mediocre performances against Oquendo, Golota, McCline, and Williamson. Wlad gets full credit for the first win, which is probably his best, and that is not flattering for an ATG(?) heavyweight.

#4- A 40 year old Ray Mercer 6-7 years out of his prime.

#5- So that leaves a narrow points win against Peter and an extremely uneventful win against Ibragimov. UD's of Peter and Byrd are his best wins, true murderers' row worthy of ATG status.

(Not to you) Racist? ****ing ridiculous. Steelhammer2010 and Carnivore can both suck a ****.

[MurderDeathKill]

Chambers loses imo, but not because he's a bum. Wlad is just a cut above the rest aside from his brother.

[The_Demon]

Too bad the Klitschkos are not American and Black, because if they were, they'd be given full credit for their achievements and regarded as great fighters.

its nothing to do with colour or nationality,but i will sig that quote,just to show people how deluded you are

[The_Demon]

Do you see your list of former champions beat? Do you think it is worthy of a top 20 heavyweights of AT spot? Because we have clowns going around lauding them as worthy of one. I like Vitali so I'm going to spare him (for now).

Klitschko fans get mad when I say it, but the heavyweight division is garbage and it's not hard to see.

#1- Chagaev and Rahman were replacements that were coming off less than stellar performances and took the fight less than a month away from the fight date. Chagaev did not look good coming off his layoff against Carl Drummond and Rahman was buzzed and quit against a fat shot Toney.

#2- Brewster was coming off of more than a year of inactivity where he almost retired because he suffered a detached retina in his loss to Lyakovich.

#3- It's hard to give Wlad full credit against a Byrd that was coming off of consecutive mediocre performances against Oquendo, Golota, McCline, and Williamson. Wlad gets full credit for the first win, which is probably his best, and that is not flattering for an ATG(?) heavyweight.

#4- A 40 year old Ray Mercer 6-7 years out of his prime.

#5- So that leaves a narrow points win against Peter and an extremely uneventful win against Ibragimov. UD's of Peter and Byrd are his best wins, true murderers' row worthy of ATG status.

(Not to you) Racist? ****ing ridiculous. Steelhammer2010 and Carnivore can both suck a ****.

brilliant post mate

the klitschko nuthuggers find it hard to swallow but everything you said was spot on

you cant be a great fighter if you dont have great or atleast near great competition.its that simple

[Dynamite Kid]

A defensive fighter will generally always struggle against Wlad.

[ManniePhresh]

the best america could bring up against the athletic klitschkos is americans with weight issues...

[bojangles1987]

I won't say he's a bum, if he loses and it's clear then he simply wasn't good enough to beat Wlad. Wlad deserves credit, just because the fighters he has to fight aren't that good doesn't mean he deserves less credit for killing them like he usually does.