So who'll say Chambers is a bum if Wlad beats him?

[Tobi.G]

Chambers is good but most know Wlad will beat him so why give Wlad credit for that? Chambers is on Chris Byrds level. We already know that Wlad beats these guys, nobody at the moment can compete with him. I would be verry happy if Eddie would win though.

[Pirao]

Chambers is good but most know Wlad will beat him so why give Wlad credit for that? Chambers is on Chris Byrds level. We already know that Wlad beats these guys, nobody at the moment can compete with him. I would be verry happy if Eddie would win though.

Are you ******? Most people know Mayweather would beat Marquez so why give him credit for that? Most people know Pacquiao will beat Clottey so why give him credit for that? Apparently the favourites don't get credit when they win, lol what a dumbass.

[Njord777]

Are you ******? Most people know Mayweather would beat Marquez so why give him credit for that? Most people know Pacquiao will beat Clottey so why give him credit for that? Apparently the favourites don't get credit when they win, lol what a dumbass.

I guess the sentiments expressed by those disinterested in the Klitschkos and the heavyweight division is basically that, while some only see Wladimir as a very good B+ heavyweight who fights tall well and has decent pop, the rest of the division is a C+. A bunch of average big men with no real challengers emerging.

That's not Wlad's fault. Really, the feeling is that nobody other than perhaps Haye presents a real threat to his crown, but at the same time he hasn't been garnering much excitement because he tends to fight safely.

So, people watch him fight decent heavyweights, look good, grab a late KO or UD, and don't really get excited by his 'robotic' jab/jab/punch type of style.

It makes people feel like there's no point in watching him and 'hey, here comes another automatic W' when he signs a fight; but that's the state of the division, not any fault of his.

[Naldo]

Chambers is a good fighter but I believe he's fighting the wrong Klitschko. I believe he would be better suited against Vitali because he's older and slower and would be more susceptible to Eddie's speed than Wlad, even though I still believe that Wlad has mental issues and will wilt if Chambers puts enough starch to him.

[extracurRICular]

He is amongst the best heavyweights in the world today. Wlad deserves credit when he beats him.

That's not really saying much..........im just saying........

[Njord777]

Chambers is a good fighter but I believe he's fighting the wrong Klitschko. I believe he would be better suited against Vitali because he's older and slower and would be more susceptible to Eddie's speed than Wlad, even though I still believe that Wlad has mental issues and will wilt if Chambers puts enough starch to him.

I don't know that Eddie really hits hard enough to effectivley pressure Wladimir into that sort of mental breakdown, hurt him, and finish the guy. Wladimir's biggest weakness I think is still his chin. In a technical boxing match he's very hard to beat because he uses his size so well and has good speed and decent pop. His jab can be pretty hard if he throws it with intent.

Chambers might bring speed to the table, so it should be a better fight than some of Klitschko's outings, but I wouldn't be shocked if Wlad keeps him at a distance, breaks Eddie down, and then counters him to a KO.

[Pirao]

I guess the sentiments expressed by those disinterested in the Klitschkos and the heavyweight division is basically that, while some only see Wladimir as a very good B+ heavyweight who fights tall well and has decent pop, the rest of the division is a C+. A bunch of average big men with no real challengers emerging.

That's not Wlad's fault. Really, the feeling is that nobody other than perhaps Haye presents a real threat to his crown, but at the same time he hasn't been garnering much excitement because he tends to fight safely.

So, people watch him fight decent heavyweights, look good, grab a late KO or UD, and don't really get excited by his 'robotic' jab/jab/punch type of style.

It makes people feel like there's no point in watching him and 'hey, here comes another automatic W' when he signs a fight; but that's the state of the division, not any fault of his.

I don't see how being so good that nobody is a threat to him can be a knock against Wlad. If you are so good that everybody thinks you'll win automatically you should get credit for it, not criticism.

[Njord777]

I don't see how being so good that nobody is a threat to him can be a knock against Wlad. If you are so good that everybody thinks you'll win automatically you should get credit for it, not criticism.

I'm not saying he's 'so good nobody is a threat'.

I'm saying he's good enough that, in this divison, nobody seems to threaten him. That actually can put more pressure on him because those who are on the fence about Wladimir since his comeback are expecting to see him do something magical against these opponents they know shouldn't pose a threat.

It'd be like Manny not looking good against Clottey. That's not going to bode well for his mainstream appeal; most expect him to beat and mangle Joshua, they just wonder how and when.

I'm saying that Wladimir knows how to use his gifts well enough that, while not always looking exciting, he gets the expected 'W'.

So, really, people just start ignoring his fights. 'Oh, here's Wlad against another guy not good enough to beat him. Beat he jabs to a W. Fantastic. I'll skip that.'

I'm not saying he's an A+ fighter, winning against guys that are really good. I'm saying critics view him as a B+ fighter plying his trade in a 'C' division.

[Pirao]

I'm not saying he's 'so good nobody is a threat'.

I'm saying he's good enough that, in this divison, nobody seems to threaten him. That actually can put more pressure on him because those who are on the fence about Wladimir since his comeback are expecting to see him do something magical against these opponents they know shouldn't pose a threat.

It'd be like Manny not looking good against Clottey. That's not going to bode well for his mainstream appeal; most expect him to beat and mangle Joshua, they just wonder how and when.

I'm saying that Wladimir knows how to use his gifts well enough that, while not always looking exciting, he gets the expected 'W'.

So, really, people just start ignoring his fights. 'Oh, here's Wlad against another guy not good enough to beat him. Beat he jabs to a W. Fantastic. I'll skip that.'

I'm not saying he's an A+ fighter, winning against guys that are really good. I'm saying critics view him as a B+ fighter plying his trade in a 'C' division.

But Wlad looks good, since he's comeback he dominates every fight and usually stops his opponents, what more can he do?

The critics that see his opponents as C level are not going to give credit to him no matter what he does, they're just waiting for Wlad to lose so they can say "see, he sucks", IMO. How can you change the opinion of people who think like that? I don't know.

I seriously believe their european heritage makes some people dislike him, since HW champions have traditionally been american. Lennox Lewis got the same problem. They say the division is weak and that's why this eastern europeans are winning, because the division is weak, not because they're good. Maybe when they realize the eastern europeans are here to stay (look at most HW prospects: Pulev, Boystov, Helenius...), maybe with time the Klitschkos will get more respect, people will look back and say "so the division was not weak, it was that these european guys really can fight".

[Boxingwizard]

Looking on the outside you can see why this a mismatch. BUT Chambers as of right now is the best opponent who can beat Wladimir and I think he has a good shot, but Wladimir is an 8 to 1 favorite for a reason, and that reason is justified. But my prediction is Chambers pulls off the upset.

Chambers is no bum even if he loses to Wladimir.