Did Martinez bite off more then he could chew fighting Pavlik?

[mathed]

Styles make fights and Martinez has a great style for this fight. People need to remember that Martinez had roughly a month to prepare for the Williams dfight as well as moving up in weight (whatever effect the weight may have had...I don't think much). His stamina should not be an issue in this one. I see Pavlik getting countered a lot.

[mathed]

It's not his one loss, it's his ****ing slowness, and complete inability to adapt to opponents.

This is the key, movement and angles are Pavlik's krytonite. A straight forward fighter is what Pavlik thrives on, Martinez is not that.

[P.WILL]

No, this is a dangerous fight for both guys and like someone said earlier, Pavlik will show us why he is the champ at 160.

[Khalid X]

I give Kelly props for the Miranda win, he was underestimated, came in and did his job. Taylor was never that good to begin w/ in my opinion. Taylor had more controversial wins than any fighter I know, too many flaws. I think the way Kelly was portrayed to the boxing world, people expected more from. I think Kelly and Taylor are average elites.

Taylor IMO is and always has been the same fighter. I don't think he is shot, but what I do believe is that he can't (or never has been able to) handle big punchers. In almost all of his losses he was outboxing his opponents. Against a near 40 hopkins, winky wright, corey spinks and others....those guys didn't have the big punch as an equalizer. So Taylor looked good boxing those guys. Against Abraham, Froch and Pavlik.....he looked good in all of those fights until he got caught, so in reality I feel he was the same fighter, its just he was finally exposed.

[Lucky Luciano]

Taylor IMO is and always has been the same fighter. I don't think he is shot, but what I do believe is that he can't (or never has been able to) handle big punchers. In almost all of his losses he was outboxing his opponents. Against a near 40 hopkins, winky wright, corey spinks and others....those guys didn't have the big punch as an equalizer. So Taylor looked good boxing those guys. Against Abraham, Froch and Pavlik.....he looked good in all of those fights until he got caught, so in reality I feel he was the same fighter, its just he was finally exposed.

Agree with everything you said. Everyone got better and he didn't. I think his ability to set up shots should be a lot better and are below average for a fighter at his level.

[Heru]

Sergio is Pavlik's stylistic nightmare.

Faster feet that he has no trouble effectively using. Paul has faster feet and a longer reach than Pavlik, yet found himself consistently out of reach. Martinez' footwork will play a big role to him winning as he stays out of range and counters Pavlik when he reaches or darts in, lands, and darts back out.

Martinez' power impressed me, I already knew he was fast, but I hadn't seen Paul buzzed the way Martinez had him for the first 3. He can stop Pavlik.

Pavlik has a shot, but it's a punchers' chance. And it won't be from just one shot either, he has to hope he wears Martinez out enough early to catch him later. Pavlik is capable of it though, he punches hard enough and has a good enough chin to put on consistent pressure.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Sergio is Pavlik's stylistic nightmare.

Faster feet that he has no trouble effectively using. Paul has faster feet and a longer reach than Pavlik, yet found himself consistently out of reach. Martinez' footwork will play a big role to him winning as he stays out of range and counters Pavlik when he reaches or darts in, lands, and darts back out.

Martinez' power impressed me, I already knew he was fast, but I hadn't seen Paul buzzed the way Martinez had him for the first 3. He can stop Pavlik.

Pavlik has a shot, but it's a punchers' chance. And it won't be from just one shot either, he has to hope he wears Martinez out enough early to catch him later. Pavlik is capable of it though, he punches hard enough and has a good enough chin to put on consistent pressure.

I think Pavlik is all wrong for Martinez.

He will walk him down and lead with his long jab. When the jab lands Martinez will stop in his tracks and the right hand will follow.

[Iceta Lives]

I think Pavlik is all wrong for Martinez.

He will walk him down and lead with his long jab. When the jab lands Martinez will stop in his tracks and the right hand will follow.

Pavlik lost to the same version of Hopkins that fought Roy Jones. Martinez is gonna blitz him.

[jameshepenstall]

Just wondering because Pavlik is a real Middleweight with real power. Hes a big ass dude. Hes been up to 170 vs. Hopkins and is moving up to 168 to fight Bute so hes a big ass dude.

I dont see Martinez hurting him at all. I also cant see Martinez having any answers for Pavliks jab. I think the power factor is what will do Martinez in.

When has Pavlik said he is going to fight Bute? If Pavlik was/is ducking Williams then he will be running away from Bute.

[DR.ORGYY]

No he didnt,,,,,,