Did Martinez bite off more then he could chew fighting Pavlik?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I think Pavlik's gonna remind everyone why he's the Middleweight champ.

Martinez is really good, but he's been blown up really big since his fight with Williams (who again still doesn't know how to utilize his reach). He knows how to move around the ring, but Pavlik also knows how to keep his distance, but still be in front of you to throw that jab and an array of punches that each packs more power than Martinez up to this point has probably felt.

I expect a good fight, but Pavlik pullin off the win.

Look at my sig. Williams is a lefty but the same applies. If he takes a couple rightslike that from Pav it will be over. Its the same formula jab, right hand.

[Pugilistic™]

no.

Pavlik couldn't handle the movement and handspeed of a 43 year old Hopkins, I see Martinez causing Pavlik similar problems because he like Hopkins, has good handspeed and moves well.

Pavlik is only really good when you stand in front of him, like Taylor did in the first fight for example.

I do see this fight being more competitive than Hopkins - Pavlik though, because Martinez lacks the size Hopkins has, doesn't hit as hard and defensively isn't as good.

I do see Martinez winning, via UD.

Pavlik can win this fight with his power though, if he can land consitently enough of course.

[Dynamite Kid]

Martinez doesn't need to make an impression with power to win. He simply needs to establish a rhythm of hitting and moving with regularity. I'm sure he'll have no problem with that. Pavlik isn't very fast, so despite his right hand power I don't see him scoring any big right leads on a shifty lefty like Martinez. Sergio's movement won't allow Pavlik to establish his preferred workrate either. Unless a new Pavlik shows up, he's losing his crown.

Id agree but i think its whether he can sustain it over the 12, thats the question?

That said the fact that Martinez is a Southpaw could be a huge advantage for him so you never know.

[Sparked_1985]

Martinez will have his moments in the fight, but he will eventually slow down like he did in the Williams fight. After that, I think it's going to be all Pavlik.

I pretty much agree. If Martinez could hit Williams with left-hand leads and lead right-hooks he is going to tattoo the far slower-handed Pavlik.

Pavlik is going to take an awful beating for about 5-6 rounds. But then if he comes through that, who knows. I doubt Martinez can hurt Pavlik that much either and Pavlik is a very very big man for Martinez to keep of him.

This could be like Margarito and Cotto. Martinez is going to be nailing Pavlik at will but then......who knows.

Very interesting fight.

That said if Pavlik can't get the jab working and landing. Sergio will smash him.

[Ravishing]

no.

Pavlik couldn't handle the movement and handspeed of a 43 year old Hopkins, I see Martinez causing Pavlik similar problems because he like Hopkins, has good handspeed and moves well.

Pavlik is only really good when you stand in front of him, like Taylor did in the first fight for example.

I do see this fight being more competitive than Hopkins - Pavlik though, because Martinez lacks the size Hopkins has, doesn't hit as hard and defensively isn't as good.

I do see Martinez winning, via UD.

Pavlik can win this fight with his power though, if he can land consitently enough of course.

BHop's a bigger dude who's much craftier and more experienced than Martinez...you can't compare the two at all.

[Dynamite Kid]

no.

Pavlik couldn't handle the movement and handspeed of a 43 year old Hopkins, I see Martinez causing Pavlik similar problems because he like Hopkins, has good handspeed and moves well.

Pavlik is only really good when you stand in front of him, like Taylor did in the first fight for example.

I do see this fight being more competitive than Hopkins - Pavlik though, because Martinez lacks the size Hopkins has, doesn't hit as hard and defensively isn't as good.

I do see Martinez winning, via UD.

Pavlik can win this fight with his power though, if he can land consitently enough of course.

Agree, i would have reservations about Martinez dropping his hands though, even though Martinz looks slick he is not that hard hit imo, Cintron managed to catch him when setting up his attacks.

[KESSLER]

Thats another good point. Martinez gassed out big time vs. Williams. Pavlik has a good workrate but not Williams level workrate. I do think however that Pavliks hard body shots make up for it. That will take alot of him IMO.

Williams' workrate is unreal to me at times, he is like a machine. And yeah, if Martinez gasses out in the Pavlik fight, like he did against Williams, it's going to be all Pavlik. Jabs, straight rights, body punches.

[KESSLER]

I pretty much agree. If Martinez could hit Williams with left-hand leads and lead right-hooks he is going to tattoo the far slower-handed Pavlik.

Pavlik is going to take an awful beating for about 5-6 rounds. But then if he comes through that, who knows. I doubt Martinez can hurt Pavlik that much either and Pavlik is a very very big man for Martinez to keep of him.

This could be like Margarito and Cotto. Martinez is going to be nailing Pavlik at will but then......who knows.

Very interesting fight.

That said if Pavlik can't get the jab working and landing. Sergio will smash him.

The jab is very important for Pavlik in this fight. If he stops throwing his jab, I thin Martinez can pull of a decision.

But if Martinez gets hit as much as he did in the Williams fight, he's going to get knocked out.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

no.

Pavlik couldn't handle the movement and handspeed of a 43 year old Hopkins, I see Martinez causing Pavlik similar problems because he like Hopkins, has good handspeed and moves well.

Pavlik is only really good when you stand in front of him, like Taylor did in the first fight for example.

I do see this fight being more competitive than Hopkins - Pavlik though, because Martinez lacks the size Hopkins has, doesn't hit as hard and defensively isn't as good.

I do see Martinez winning, via UD.

Pavlik can win this fight with his power though, if he can land consitently enough of course.

Thing is bro Hopkins is 6-1 and was about 180 Pounds that night. Hes wayy bigger then Martinez.

[PensionKiller]

Pavlik is a good fighter, one style but that is a really effective style. If you don't have th answer to it, then you will struggle to beat him at his own game.

Maybe it is more than he can chew, but at 5 11 he's not a small guy either.

His style will give him a good chance.