At what moment did Pacquiao become better than Mayweather?

[baracuda]

I can always spot a boxrec warrior.

Floyd beat Castillo in his prime twice in the same year. In 2002.

Hatton beat a shot Castillo 5 hears later after fights with Lazcano, Casa, Diaz, Two Corralles fights, and a fight with Ngoudjo where Castillo looked terrible and got a gift decison. He was not the same fighter.

Hell you talkin about.

please!.......floyd struggled vs jlc , if that was pac in the ring with floyd he would've never seen the 12th round.....

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

But isn't it more impressive that a smaller guy TKOed Cotto than a much bigger guy?

Tyson was a small heavyweight but he hit pretty hard. Size doesnt give you power. Look at Chad Dawson. Hes huge yet hits like a girl.

Pacquiao has power. We all know that. Him and Marg are WW's and they both KO'd him. Its safe to say that Pac hits ahrder then Margarito.

[baracuda]

Mayweather would be nice. JMM was a right hand counter puncher. It doest even have to be a right handed CP. Hell how about a boxer in general.

Collazo
Mayweather
Bradley
Quintana
Martinez
Foreman (Not that good but a boxer nonetheless.)
Casamayor was avalible
Funeka
Guzman

none of them were better than mab, morales,jmm, cotto,......

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

please!.......floyd struggled vs jlc , if that was pac in the ring with floyd he would've never seen the 12th round.....

He had a Torn Rotator Cuff in the first JLC fight. Did you even know that?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

none of them were better than mab, morales,jmm, cotto,......

They are sure as hell better then Diaz, Hatton, and Oscar. And Mosley was the best WW not Cotto.

So thats 4.

[V.WEBB]

please!.......floyd struggled vs jlc , if that was pac in the ring with floyd he would've never seen the 12th round.....

Dude, I can tell that you never really watched Floyd fight back then. Not only that, but do you understand styles? Add on that Floyd had a torn rotator cuff. At 130/135, he would have blew Manny out of the water. With all the damage that JMM did to a young Manny, Floyd have done more plus he would not have been taking any punishment in the process.

[baracuda]

He had a Torn Rotator Cuff in the first JLC fight. Did you even know that?

lol...i know thats what he said, floyd never lied before right?.....lol....excuses excuses......

[bojangles1987]

Assuming he is, which I think he is but I'm not quite sure about, it happened after the first JMM fight when Pac and Roach made a dedicated effort to improve Pac's technical ability, which I think becomes clearer with each fight. It also has to do with who has more heart for the sport and I think Pac does.

[Puntoyhauf]

But isn't it more impressive that a smaller guy TKOed Cotto than a much bigger guy?

That is the common misconception. Pac's walking around weight back when he was fighting Morales for the third time was 155. Pac struggled to make 130lbs fighting JMM for the second time. I really believe Pac's natural fighting weight now is at 140lbs, but he proved that he can be as effective in 147 because he's faster than most guys in 147lbs today.

I can always spot a boxrec warrior.

Floyd beat Castillo in his prime twice in the same year. In 2002.

Hatton beat a shot Castillo 5 hears later after fights with Lazcano, Casa, Diaz, Two Corralles fights, and a fight with Ngoudjo where Castillo looked terrible and got a gift decison. He was not the same fighter.

Hell you talkin about.

Excuse me and get your facts straight. PBF lost his first fight with Castillo, his only decisive win with Castillo was the rematch.

But in a BOXREC manner...well ok, he won both fights with JLC.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I'm not trying to hate on the guy but we have to keep things in perpesctive. Hes a great fighter no doubt. But I need to see him vs. another counter puncher again. I need to see if hes still the same guy that JMM smacked up side the head over and over. A fight with Mayweather will show me what Pac is about.