At what moment did Pacquiao become better than Mayweather?

[boxasmash]

Why are poeple forgetting that Cotto was beat to a pulp by Margarito and was life and death with Clottey before Pac beat him. At 145 Pounds at that.

Yes, but. Pacquiao was outboxing and outlanding Cotto all the way through the fight while Margarito was losing the majority of the fight and only won because of his size,chin and stamina.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

He used to be even more dominant TKOing top P4p guys like Corrales. Now his power is only average and his speed isn't so significant anymore.

His speed and reflexes are still insane. Hes also gotten smarter and more accurate and harder to hit. As he aged hes got smarter. The Floyd now would win every round vs. Young Floyd. It wouldnt even be a close fight. Floyd is MORE dominant now IMO. His accuracy is ridicoulous the guy does not miss.

[baracuda]

You do realize that Mayweather had power in both hands and was an absolute killer at that weight right?

do you realized pac was too?.....and did floyd have that much power that he could'nt even put away jlc that hatton put away in 4 rounds.....jlc won in the first fight imo

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Yes, but. Pacquiao was outboxing and outlanding Cotto all the way through the fight while Margarito was losing the majority of the fight and only won because of his size,chin and stamina.

Thats a part of what Makes Margarito, Margarito. Thats like saying Pac only won because of his speed and stamina.


They both KO'd him. Brutally. It doesnt matter HOW its done it just matters THAT its done.

[Puntoyhauf]

For those of you who think he will win (I'm not decided yet, I'll decide after their next fights).

Surely at 130 Mayweather would have beaten Pacquiao who lost to Morales once and drew/won SD over Marquez. At 135? Pacquiao looked like a beast but he was only fighting David Diaz so it's hard to hell. 140 and 147 Pac beat up Hatton ODLH and Cotto but if you can finger point the moment Pac became good enough to beat Floyd let me know...

His progression is so strange, haven't seen anything else like it in boxing.

same here, I have not seen anything like it. And the image of him beating Cotto still makes me shrug my shoulders.

He just got better at 135lbs, it's there when I saw that he was finally comfortable with his right hand. Too bad that fight was with the limited David Diaz. But still If you look at that fight in slow motion you can see the difference with the way he fights against JMM...or maybe that's because Diaz is also a southpaw.

But it's really tough to compare Pac and Floyd. Pac is still in the learning process but Floyd is already a master. I can't see any boxer today as pure a boxer like Floyd, second to his skills I put Calderon.

Manny on the other hand is something special too. Maybe it's his movements and speed...the way he uses that speed and the way he throws his punches in angles you never expect, like the way he caught and knocked Cotto.

They are two different boxers. In a warrior kind of way Manny is better than Floyd because of courage and confidence that makes his fights worth watching because it's more exciting. But when it's about boxing skills Floyd Jr is a much better boxer than Pacquiao.

[boxasmash]

But isn't it more impressive that a smaller guy TKOed Cotto than a much bigger guy?

[victorythagr8]

I honestly cant tell you when it happen. I remeber him going life and death with JMM. Then he never fought a right handed counter puncher again.

And what great right handed counter puncher outside of Floyd is out there from 135-147.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

do you realized pac was too?.....and did floyd have that much power that he could'nt even put away jlc that hatton put away in 4 rounds.....jlc won in the first fight imo

I can always spot a boxrec warrior.

Floyd beat Castillo in his prime twice in the same year. In 2002.

Hatton beat a shot Castillo 5 hears later after fights with Lazcano, Casa, Diaz, Two Corralles fights, and a fight with Ngoudjo where Castillo looked terrible and got a gift decison. He was not the same fighter.

Hell you talkin about.

[baracuda]

But isn't it more impressive that a smaller guy TKOed Cotto than a much bigger guy?

definitely.....2 years ago,who woulda thought pac would stop hoya,hatton,cotto like he did......

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

And what great right handed counter puncher outside of Floyd is out there from 135-147.

Mayweather would be nice. JMM was a right hand counter puncher. It doest even have to be a right handed CP. Hell how about a boxer in general.

Collazo
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Bradley
Quintana
Martinez
Foreman (Not that good but a boxer nonetheless.)
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