At what moment did Pacquiao become better than Mayweather?

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  • Schmerzen
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    #351
    Originally posted by madsweeney
    Whats racist about stating facts. His daddy was a crack peddler, his uncle admitted to using crack. According to Floyd himself, his mother used crack as well. So tell me, how did his comments have ANYTHING to do with race?
    floyd doesnt take responsibility for what his familiy members do.
    do u see me saying pacquiao is a dog eating freak, because his father did kill his dog and ate it in front of manny like its nothing?
    i bet there r many things mannys ****ed up father did, lets blame pac for all that.

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    • imscythe
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      #352
      Originally posted by Nike Phats
      No it isn't. It's like accusing Barry Bonds, Mark Mcgwire, Sammy Sosa, and A-Rod. Speculation based off outrageous and abnormal jumps in performance, and is further cemented by the said players shoddy actions, and later proven true through testing.
      Accusations coming from a drug dealer. Well if they were so strong to take this case of pac on roids they could have just seek the governing bodies which I'm sure pac will abide by it.

      Like I said it's like accusing someone of witchcraft, even if you follow what the authority says (in this case Mayweather's demand) you will still get burn at the stake (next allegations after taking the test and resulted negative). Unless someone of a higher authority with no bias in mind goes through all this then it will only by then well be 100% sure if someone is guilty or not. But alas, the accuser didn't even bother to do this.

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      • imscythe
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        #353
        Originally posted by mazdaru
        ouch.

        OWNED
        So you're just waiting for someone to back you up?

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        • Hannibal Barca
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          #354
          Originally posted by imscythe
          Your argument goes down the drain.

          It's like in the dark ages accusing someone of witchcraft.
          Originally posted by imscythe
          Accusations coming from a drug dealer. Well if they were so strong to take this case of pac on roids they could have just seek the governing bodies which I'm sure pac will abide by it.

          Like I said it's like accusing someone of witchcraft, even if you follow what the authority says (in this case Mayweather's demand) you will still get burn at the stake (next allegations after taking the test and resulted negative). Unless someone of a higher authority with no bias in mind goes through all this then it will only by then well be 100% sure if someone is guilty or not. But alas, the accuser didn't even bother to do this.
          What the hell are you talking about? It is and has been apparent that people outside of the Mayweather camp suspected, suspect, and will continue to suspect foul play on Manny's part. Why? Because we've been through this before. It's the same old song and dance, and he's only made it worse on himself.

          For example, Mcgwire NEVER tested positive for any PED. Why? Because he was never tested. Now, a decade after rumors surfaced he decides to be honest about his actions.

          Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds, like Manny, claimed they weren't aware of the substances they were being given by their respective trainers. Sure enough, they to were on PED's.

          Mayweathers "demand" has taken life, and may soon be standardized by both the MLB and NFL. Obviously, Mayweathers "demand" wasn't so farfetched, and in fact makes sense.

          This all could have been easily solved. Like thousands of athletes, both olympic and otherwise, take the damn test.

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          • mazdaru
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            #355
            Originally posted by imscythe
            Accusations coming from a drug dealer. Well if they were so strong to take this case of pac on roids they could have just seek the governing bodies which I'm sure pac will abide by it.

            Like I said it's like accusing someone of witchcraft, even if you follow what the authority says (in this case Mayweather's demand) you will still get burn at the stake (next allegations after taking the test and resulted negative). Unless someone of a higher authority with no bias in mind goes through all this then it will only by then well be 100% sure if someone is guilty or not. But alas, the accuser didn't even bother to do this.
            what the hell are you talking about!!!!

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            • imscythe
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              #356
              Originally posted by Nike Phats
              What the hell are you talking about? It is and has been apparent that people outside of the Mayweather camp suspected, suspect, and will continue to suspect foul play on Manny's part. Why? Because we've been through this before. It's the same old song and dance, and he's only made it worse on himself.

              For example, Mcgwire NEVER tested positive for any PED. Why? Because he was never tested. Now, a decade after rumors surfaced he decides to be honest about his actions.

              Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds, like Manny, claimed they weren't aware of the substances they were being given by their respective trainers. Sure enough, they to were on PED's.

              Mayweathers "demand" has taken life, and may soon be standardized by both the MLB and NFL. Obviously, Mayweathers "demand" wasn't so farfetched, and in fact makes sense.

              This all could have been easily solved. Like thousands of athletes, both olympic and otherwise, take the damn test.
              What I'm trying to say is Pac will agree to take the test if a boxing governing body is the one who administered it. Principle and pride brother, that is the main reason he wouldn't budge on Floyd's demands.

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              • Khalid X
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                #357
                Originally posted by boxasmash
                I can't see a 130 lbs Pac beating Mayweather, at 135 I'd favour Floyd too (although It's hard to say). Mayweather seemed to get worse the more weight added and Pac seemed to get better.
                actually this version of Pac is about the same size as he was when he was at 135. Only difference is now he doesn't cut weight vs him doing it back then. So even at that....a 135lb of Pac (which is technically what we see now) beat the 135lb version of Floyd. Pac is only at WW because that is were the big money fights are at.

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                • BetterCallSaul
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                  #358
                  Barrera
                  Morales
                  Marquez
                  De La Hoya
                  Hatton
                  Cotto

                  - That moment.

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                  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                    #359
                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                    actually this version of Pac is about the same size as he was when he was at 135. Only difference is now he doesn't cut weight vs him doing it back then. So even at that....a 135lb of Pac (which is technically what we see now) beat the 135lb version of Floyd Pac is only at WW because that is were the big money fights are at.
                    Man you are a nut hugger.

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                    • ELPacman
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                      #360
                      "At what moment did Pacquiao become better than Mayweather?"

                      The moment he took challenges. Call me when Mayweather does.

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