At what moment did Pacquiao become better than Mayweather?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

No. But your saying that the version of Pac that fought JMM the first time murders Floyd. The biggest criticism about that version of Pac was that if you take away his left hand he would struggle. That is basically what JMM did. Keep in mind that Floyd is faster and bigger than JMM was at that weight. Also his defense would help a lot. So you saying that Pac at that stage would destroy a counter puncher that had great defense and could compete with his speed? The current version of Pac might be more suited for that fight. That version of Pac would struggle. It would be a great fight though. Now Floyd isn't 100x better than JMM but he is significantly better than him and they have similar strengths.

Thank You.....Floyd vs. Pac at 130 is a mismatch in the worst way. Pac was not ready for Floyd back then.

[Puntoyhauf]

i don't know if pacquiao is good enough to beat floyd. floyd could be a style mismatch for pacquiao (though you could say the opposite as well)

i know when pacquiao's resume pased floyd's though and that was a couple years ago.

I agree, Pac's southpaw stance and style plus speed as of today might present problems to Floyd Jr.

Floyd's overall skill and fighting instict might give Pac a tough fight... a much tougher fight than JMM.

We can never know, only ******s here know for sure who wins.

[V.WEBB]

floyd got hit more than ever vs jlc and burton...imagine pac doing that to floyd for hes hell of a lot better than both, i just dont see floyd lasting 12 rounds....

Again, you just ignore styles. We are talking about the Manny that fought AT 130.

Pac fought a counter puncher named JMM and JMM last 24 rounds, but Floyd wouldn't? Get out of here. The 130 version of Pac gets his hat handed to him against the 130 (135 for that matter) version of Mayweather.

[Puntoyhauf]

Thank You.....Floyd vs. Pac at 130 is a mismatch in the worst way. Pac was not ready for Floyd back then.

I totally agree.

[baracuda]

No. But your saying that the version of Pac that fought JMM the first time murders Floyd. The biggest criticism about that version of Pac was that if you take away his left hand he would struggle. That is basically what JMM did. Keep in mind that Floyd is faster and bigger than JMM was at that weight. Also his defense would help a lot. So you saying that Pac at that stage would destroy a counter puncher that had great defense and could compete with his speed? The current version of Pac might be more suited for that fight. That version of Pac would struggle. It would be a great fight though. Now Floyd isn't 100x better than JMM but he is significantly better than him and they have similar strengths.

yes, exactly....if burton and jlc could tag floyd like that , ......floyd would get hit all night long vs pac!

[V.WEBB]

No. But your saying that the version of Pac that fought JMM the first time murders Floyd. The biggest criticism about that version of Pac was that if you take away his left hand he would struggle. That is basically what JMM did. Keep in mind that Floyd is faster and bigger than JMM was at that weight. Also his defense would help a lot. So you saying that Pac at that stage would destroy a counter puncher that had great defense and could compete with his speed? The current version of Pac might be more suited for that fight. That version of Pac would struggle. It would be a great fight though. Now Floyd isn't 100x better than JMM but he is significantly better than him and they have similar strengths.

You dropping that TRUTH...M.I

[baracuda]

Again, you just ignore styles. We are talking about the Manny that fought AT 130.

Pac fought a counter puncher named JMM and JMM last 24 rounds, but Floyd wouldn't? Get out of here. The 130 version of Pac gets his hat handed to him against the 130 (135 for that matter) version of Mayweather.

nope.....you just cant asuume floyd can do it because jmm did it, thats just crap reasoning.......

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

True, but Chico was not the same Chico and everybody saw that. Did you know that Chico had to cut 18lbs to make the weight?
Anyway, any boxer with a good chin and a great defense would have a chance to win against Chico.

Did you know Cotto had to cut 17 Pounds to fight Pac?

Did you know Hatton had to cut 40 Pounds to make 140?

Do you know that Clottey will have to cut atleast 20 Pounds to make 147?

Did you know that Oscar had to cut about 14 Pounds to make 147?


So what was your point about Chico cutting weight again?

[M.I.C.]

Somebody please put Pac in the ring with Mayweather so I wont have to read ****** azz threads like these!!!

[V.WEBB]

nope.....you just cant asuume floyd can do it because jmm did it, thats just crap reasoning.......

crap reasoning? Styles make fights...in case you missed that.

That is why I'm done talking with you.

You missed my argument this WHOLE TIME. I'm not speaking from emotion like you. I'm speaking from a STYLE STANDPOINT. Floyd and JMM are similar because they are both great boxers and counter punchers. Add on to fact that Floyd was ALOT MORE offensive at 130.

Pac had very tough fights against JMM BECAUSE JMM was a boxer/counter puncher.