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  • #31
    too bad its floyd who wants to clean up the sport of boxing.. coming from a man who always contradicts himself.. no credibility.. too bad.. tsk

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    • #32
      Originally posted by check hook View Post
      Marion Jones was using THG or "The Clear"


      FYI - None of the doping agencies had any knowledge the clear even existed.....it was manufactred by BALCO. There was no test for it because they didn't know of it's existence...and that explains why she was not caught.

      She was also using the cream......a masking agent....



      ^^^

      ANY WAY WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN IS IRRELEVANT. U ARE USING THE FACT THAT SHE PASSED WADA/USADA TESTING AS A JUSTIFICATION THAT WE SHOULD NOT EVEN BOTHER HAVING BETTER TESTING STANDARDS.......TRY AGAIN......!!!

      Not quite true.

      In 2003, Don Catlin, MD, the founder and then-director of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Lab and now head of the Los Angeles-based nonprofit Anti-Doping Research, identified and developed a test for THG, the second reported designer anabolic steroid. Later that year, the Chicago Tribune named Catlin Sportsman of the Year. Catlin also identified the first reported designer anabolic steroid in sport, norbolethone.[10][11]

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      • #33
        Originally posted by check hook View Post
        Well that would help......but the sanctioning bodies need to get there heads out of their asses........

        Athletic commissions have a conflict of interest in these matters as do the sanctioning bodies......

        WADA's mandate is test and test randomly....and uncover drug use...that is their mandate.....the sanctioning bodies need to outsource testing to WADA or USADA.......no conflicts of interest and no other mandates apart from catching dopers.....

        Realistically uit can't be left up to the fighters....

        1. Because there is undoubtedly fighters who dope

        and

        2. The paydays on offer will make them accept fights without testing....


        needs to come from the top......legitimise boxing 100%......boxing should have the very best standards in place given the inherently violent nature of the sport
        You're 100% right. What Floyd is doing is commendable (if he really wants the mandatory blood testing to clean up the sport) however the fighters could never effect such change because they don't run the sport. Unfortunately, we have many different ruling bodies (WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, etc...) that have input as well as different boxing commissions in almost every state. This highlights the main problem with boxing, the reason it hasn't become more mainstream and larger in the sporting world, too much fragmentation due to not having ONE ruling body in charge of the entire sport. That's why you have corruption and a general lack of consensus on every little thing (a million different recognized champions, fighters being ranked as contender #1 by one organization and not even ranked by another because of personal reasons, etc...).

        Boxing needs to clean up their sport (I'm sure their are plenty of boxers taking HGH and other things to enhance their performances) however to do this effectively they need ONE ruling body. Boxing needs a David Stern, a Roger Goodell or they need a group of people (supreme court) to decide on matters. They need a person to be in charge who isn't connected to any current ruling body or commission to come in, clean house and implement whatever they feel is necessary (blood testing instead of urine testing) to get to the point where all rules are identical for everybody.

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        • #34
          Blood tests can detect HGH but it takes years of testing before they can tell if the HGH level of a person is not normal. Even if Pac is using HGH a random blood test in a span of 2 months can't detect it.

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          • #35
            I'm all for cleaning the sport of boxing of all illegal substance (including xylocaine). Not to go overboard let us also test trainers just to be fair for everybody that's involved in the sport.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by baracuda View Post
              i guess your dumbass did'nt notice that he said all boxers use it....proof!.......pacman,cotto,shane,clottey pwill etc dont use it.....


              http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=358171



              "I use Xylocaine...it's not a PED" - Freddie Roach

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              • #37
                Originally posted by check hook View Post
                http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=358171



                "I use Xylocaine...it's not a PED" - Freddie Roach
                To piggyback...

                http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=358171

                And that was a goddamn EXAMINER article, and we all know how opinionated they are about Floyd

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by check hook View Post
                  http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=358171



                  "I use Xylocaine...it's not a PED" - Freddie Roach
                  lol.......i did'nt see any proof that all boxers use xylocaine......

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by check hook View Post
                    using this as justification not to have it is a moral failure.........
                    LOLs because you can't face the fact that USADA fails?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Wukillabeez78 View Post
                      You're 100% right. What Floyd is doing is commendable (if he really wants the mandatory blood testing to clean up the sport) however the fighters could never effect such change because they don't run the sport. Unfortunately, we have many different ruling bodies (WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, etc...) that have input as well as different boxing commissions in almost every state. This highlights the main problem with boxing, the reason it hasn't become more mainstream and larger in the sporting world, too much fragmentation due to not having ONE ruling body in charge of the entire sport. That's why you have corruption and a general lack of consensus on every little thing (a million different recognized champions, fighters being ranked as contender #1 by one organization and not even ranked by another because of personal reasons, etc...).

                      Boxing needs to clean up their sport (I'm sure their are plenty of boxers taking HGH and other things to enhance their performances) however to do this effectively they need ONE ruling body. Boxing needs a David Stern, a Roger Goodell or they need a group of people (supreme court) to decide on matters. They need a person to be in charge who isn't connected to any current ruling body or commission to come in, clean house and implement whatever they feel is necessary (blood testing instead of urine testing) to get to the point where all rules are identical for everybody.



                      Exactly they all act in their own self interests....these self interest are not always aligned with what is best for BOXING!!!!!

                      Guess thats the by product of boxing essentially having been run by gangsters since it's inception....we need to flush out the old heads......

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