The Klitschko Factor: Assessing Vitali

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  • Tha Greatest
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    #61
    Originally posted by SturmRules
    funny how no matter what vitali does peopel will always say o he's a quiter, how about lewis he has no mroe heart then vitali does showign up as the champ out of shape and gettign KO'd by a sack of **** in rahman while smiling at it. and u call yourself a boxing fan more liek a disgrace if u ask me
    I actually agree with SacTowns last post

    he said some good things about Klitschko

    He needs to beat a big name to get a big name

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      #62
      Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
      No, they're not. They're average.

      So the difference is, there's THREE average Heavyweights that really haven't proven more than eachother that hold titles, and there's only fanatical allusions about one of them.
      thats where i disagree, i think VK has proven himself by destroying his opponents the way a champ should... while ruiz and byrd get gift decisions....

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        #63
        Originally posted by guru
        thats where i disagree, i think VK has proven himself by destroying his opponents the way a champ should... while ruiz and byrd get gift decisions....

        A win is a win, and to me, Vitali knocking out horribly condition B class opponents is no more or less impressive than Byrd decisioning McCline, Tua and Holyfield; or Ruiz decisioning Rahman and knocking out Oquendo.

        None of it is very impressive.

        You point out that Byrd and Ruiz are not great fighters.

        You're right.

        Yet Klitschko lost to Byrd, and is signed to fight a guy Ruiz already beat.

        Again, this isn't to say that he sucks, he just has a lot left to prove.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
          A win is a win, and to me, Vitali knocking out horribly condition B class opponents is no more or less impressive than Byrd decisioning McCline, Tua and Holyfield; or Ruiz decisioning Rahman and knocking out Oquendo.

          None of it is very impressive.

          You point out that Byrd and Ruiz are not great fighters.

          You're right.

          Yet Klitschko lost to Byrd, and is signed to fight a guy Ruiz already beat.

          Again, this isn't to say that he sucks, he just has a lot left to prove.


          VK is fighting rahman cause he's in the mandatory position, well either him or barrett after july, thank don king for that...

          VK lost to byrd, but i dont hold against as much as you do, since he was winning and had a legit injury...

          i dont argue that he has more to prove, but i think when arguing who's the top guy in the division, you have to look at HOW they're winning as well....

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            #65
            Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
            A win is a win, and to me, Vitali knocking out horribly condition B class opponents is no more or less impressive than Byrd decisioning McCline, Tua and Holyfield; or Ruiz decisioning Rahman and knocking out Oquendo.

            None of it is very impressive.

            You point out that Byrd and Ruiz are not great fighters.

            You're right.

            Yet Klitschko lost to Byrd, and is signed to fight a guy Ruiz already beat.

            Again, this isn't to say that he sucks, he just has a lot left to prove.
            a win is a win? so theres no such thing as robberies or anything?

            who has byrd beat?
            a super narrow descion agasint jameel big time lose mccline?
            a draw with golota which is a proven fact he lost to him
            near 50 fight holyfield which at that time hoyl was fighting liek a C level fighter?
            David tua 1 dimensal tua u consider him a A fighter?
            fres oqeundo who byrd admitted he lost to? even if he did beat fres who is fres anyway lmao?
            byrd beat this vitali guy? i thought he was just a guy who ebats up on out of shape B guys wasnt that your words?

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              #66
              Originally posted by SturmRules
              a win is a win? so theres no such thing as robberies or anything?

              who has byrd beat?
              Well, start with Vitali. Then there's eveyone you mentioned and tried to downplay, like you think Corie Sanders, Kirk Johnson (at 270) and Larry Donald are so much better.

              I'm not the one trying to glorify Chris Byrd like you are trying to do with Klitschko.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                Well, start with Vitali. Then there's eveyone you mentioned and tried to downplay, like you think Corie Sanders, Kirk Johnson (at 270) and Larry Donald are so much better.

                I'm not the one trying to glorify Chris Byrd like you are trying to do with Klitschko.

                u just said vitali is a guy with lots to prove and beat sup out of shape B guys lmao.



                corrie sanders is better then just about anyone byrd has won agasint!!!

                jameel aint better, fres aint either, tua might be even level but i dunno, id take sanders over the holyfield that byrd fought, not to mention sanders KO'd wlad in 2 roudns where as byrd got owned.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by SturmRules
                  corrie sanders is better then just about anyone byrd has won agasint!!!
                  This conversation is over. I don't talk to drug abusers.

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                  • Enayze
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                    #69
                    This thread and the article are a pieces of ****

                    What kind of idiot calls 5 or 6 pounds overweight ludacrous? Not to mention Lewis was already in preparation for Johnston while Vitali was going to face a tune up. Vitali is still yet to be behind on scorecards in a fight, not to mention is yet to be beat where injury doesnt occur, or even knocked down for that matter.

                    Here is something we should all realize, our heavyweight champ is Vitali Klitschko.

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                    • Truth
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                      #70
                      Until he beats Rahman, Toney or Byrd I don't think of him as the real champion.

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