Is There Any Mex/Latinos Boxers More Accomplished Than DLH???

[jrosales13]

Not most but some. Which is understandable.



If I remember correctly, there is a thread on here that most people agree that winning belts in multiple divisions is better than staying in one defending.



Ok....One. But seriously, Finito didn't do more than Oscar. I'm a Finito fan as well.

I can go on and say how Oscar has not accomplished stuff that all this other fighters has...



He has accomplished more than some of them. How can he not be as great as them?? I think its freaking ****** and childish just cause you don't like him, you don't give props.
Fool Please. Just cause you don't agree with me doesn't mean I don't know boxing.

Most did not fight in the WBO era... And, Chavez was already down hill went the WBO belt was coming alone... How many title in weight-class do you think fighters like Gomez, Benitez, Duran, Arguello, Olivarez, Pintor, Napoles would of won if they fought in the WBO era? How many champions do you think they would of beat if they fought in the WBO era? Kid Azteca did not have 4 belts and 17 weight-classes when he was fighting...

So moving up weight-classes is better than cleaning out divisions? Eh they're about the same not one is better than the other... Is not easy to do either...

Oscar is not on the level of Napoles, Chavez, Olivares, Arguello, or Duaran. He just not... I wouldn't even put him in the level of Gomez, Ortiz, Zaragosa, Canto, or Finito... For you to say that Oscar is greater than all this fighters cuz he fought in an era were there so many paper belts is ridiculous and does prover your knowledge of the sport...

[jrosales13]

Meh, lets not hold that against oscar, Tito brought his A game and lost to Oscar, lets not sugar coat it, that was an Oscar win.

That was not an Oscar win... Round 1 and round 5 were swing rounds... Those rounds were close either fighter could of won them... Round 4 Tito won.... And, Round 9-12 Oscar didn't do a damn thing to win those rounds... Oscar clearly won rounds 2,3,6,7, and 8... You can make a case that he won round 1 and 5 but those were close that you can make a case that Tito won those same rounds... So by no means is that an Oscar win...

[Eric Holder]

Can you tell me why with each person then since he failed to do that??

alright I'll do it for the one's I feel are especially most accomplished



Roberto Duran - 4 weight division champ ,ATG LW, wins over: Leonard, De Jesus, Buchanan, Barkley, Palomino, Marcel

Julio Cesar Chavez - 3 weight division champ, most title defenses and world title fights in boxing history, ATG JWW, wins over: Camacho, Taylor (x2), Rosario, Mayweather (x2), Haugen

Carlos Monzon - made a record 14 title defense, ATG MW, wins over: Napoles, Griffith, Benevenuti

[Mr. Fantastic]

Most did not fight in the WBO era... And, Chavez was already down hill went the WBO belt was coming alone... How many title in weight-class do you think fighters like Gomez, Benitez, Duran, Arguello, Olivarez, Pintor, Napoles would of won if they fought in the WBO era? How many champions do you think they would of beat if they fought in the WBO era? Kid Azteca did not have 4 belts and 17 weight-classes when he was fighting...

I honestly don't know. Neither do you. But I won't lie, I could imagine.

So moving up weight-classes is better than cleaning out divisions? Eh they're about the same not one is better than the other... Is not easy to do either...

Yes it is but I do agree with you on them not being easy.

Oscar is not on the level of Napoles, Chavez, Olivares, Arguello, or Duaran. He just not... I wouldn't even put him in the level of Gomez, Ortiz, Zaragosa, Canto, or Finito... For you to say that Oscar is greater than all this fighters cuz he fought in an era were there so many paper belts is ridiculous and does prover your knowledge of the sport...

Oscar is better than most of them.
So you're trying to say Pac's accomplishments are nothing but ridiculous cause he's fighting in a paper belt era?? Curious. Let's see your double standards. I mean, he's like top 10 ATG all of a sudden.

[jrosales13]

LMAO!! A ******* bitching about another fighter being drained. Day don't get better than this.
A drained Tito would of gotten murked by Oscar.

Apparently not cuz Tito was drained and he didn't get murked... Was Tito serious about going up to 154 in 1997 yes or no?

[Mr. Fantastic]

Apparently not cuz Tito was drained and he didn't get murked... Was Tito serious about going up to 154 in 1997 yes or no?

Dude you killing me!! Not even Ricans would say he was drained.

[jrosales13]

I honestly don't know. Neither do you. But I won't lie, I could imagine.


Yes it is but I do agree with you on them not being easy.



Oscar is better than most of them.
So you're trying to say Pac's accomplishments are nothing but ridiculous cause he's fighting in a paper belt era?? Curious. Let's see your double standards.

Go look at my history and see what I say about Pac... When I compare Pac 7 titles in 7 division... I compare to the fighters with the 4 belts era.... When I compare Pac 4 lineal titles in 4 divisions I compare him to the jr divisions era... Never once would you see me compare him to the likes of Armstrong, Langford, Charles, Greb, B. Leonard, Robinson, Fitzsimmons, Wilde, Or Moore just cuz those fighter didn't have all those jr divisions or all those belts... If they did then everything Pac has accomplished they would of done it and more... FFS Armstong went from featherweight to middleweight, Langford went from lightweight to heavyweight, Wilde was weigh-ing 100lbs knocking out guys that weight over 200lbs... I don't compare Pac to none of them... You can check my history I have even debated with Pacquiao fans like Pacdbest who try to say that Pac accomplished more then this fighters cuz he has 7 titles and 4 lineal and no other fighter has that.... But, he is not thinking about the era Pac fought and the era the other fighters fought in who didn't have the opportunity to winn all those... Just like how you're not looking at how the past fighters did not have the opportunity to win the WBO belt like Oscar did in 3 divisions... And, since there was no WBO is harder to beat 17 world champions... When you start comparing accomplishments you have to acknowledge the era they fought in...

[jrosales13]

Dude you killing me!! Not even Ricans would say he was drained.

Was Tito going to move up to 154 in 1997 cuz he had trouble making 147 yes or no?

[Mr. Fantastic]

Go look at my history and see what I say about Pac... When I compare Pac 7 titles in 7 division... I compare to the fighters with the 4 belts era.... When I compare Pac 4 lineal titles in 4 divisions I compare him to the jr divisions era... Never once would you see me compare him to the likes of Armstrong, Langford, Charles, Greb, B. Leonard, Robinson, Fitzsimmons, Wilde, Or Moore just cuz those fighter didn't have all those jr divisions or all those belts... If they did then everything Pac has accomplished they would of done it and more... FFS Armstong went from featherweight to middleweight, Langford went from lightweight to heavyweight, Wilde was weigh-ing 100lbs knocking out guys that weight over 200lbs... I don't compare Pac to none of them... You can check my history I have even debated with Pacquiao fans like Pacdbest who try to say that Pac accomplished more then this fighters cuz he has 7 titles and 4 lineal and no other fighter has that.... But, he is not thinking about the era Pac fought and the era the other fighters fought in who didn't have the opportunity to winn all those... Just like how you're not looking at how the past fighters did not have the opportunity to win the WBO belt like Oscar did in 3 divisions... And, since there was no WBO is harder to beat 17 world champions... When you start comparing accomplishments you have to acknowledge the era they fought in...

Bro, the WBO started in the 80s. Some of those guys you mentioned retired in the 2000s.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Was Tito going to move up to 154 in 1997 cuz he had trouble making 147 yes or no?

Cause he wanted to move up doesn't mean he was drained for the DLH fight. Its pretty simple. I never read he had trouble.