Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Wants Mayweather So Badly, Says Roach

[Pretty Boy Greg]

i think floyd is just scared period, he call himself a money. then fight pac winner takes all. floyd can have all the money if he want, but he is scared because he knows pac style is dangerous for him.

dude, 9 posts in to NSB and im alreadying placing you on ignore...

[Calilloyd]

Because the negotiations were based on an unfounded accusation and character smear, and on the pretence that people are guilty until proved innocent.

If it had really been about simply raising standards in boxing, as he pretended, then he would not have made those completely unfounded public accusations.

And if he didn't know that making those accusations would kill the fight, then he is a lot dumber than I believe him to be. Pacquiao has always been willing to kill a fight if he feels he's being disrespected in the negotiations - and especially if he feels the Filipino people are being disrespected. He was willing to kill the Hatton fight over purse share because he thought he was being disrespected. The same with the De La Hoya fight. The moment Floyd started making those accusations and making demands based on those accusations, I knew the fight was about to be killed. If Floyd didn't know that, then he's a fool.

He could have got his 14 day cut-off if he'd conducted the negotiations differently.

Mayweather agreed to 10 million for each pound over 147 when he has never weighed over 147 for a welterweight fight. So that reasoning is BS. And no, he was never going to get the 14 day cut off no matter how they negotiated. Either they were going to agree to it or not. And they chose not to.

[WESS]

Because the negotiations were based on an unfounded accusation and character smear, and on the pretence that people are guilty until proved innocent.

If it had really been about simply raising standards in boxing, as he pretended, then he would not have made those completely unfounded public accusations.

And if he didn't know that making those accusations would kill the fight, then he is a lot dumber than I believe him to be. Pacquiao has always been willing to kill a fight if he feels he's being disrespected in the negotiations - and especially if he feels the Filipino people are being disrespected. He was willing to kill the Hatton fight over purse share because he thought he was being disrespected. The same with the De La Hoya fight. The moment Floyd started making those accusations and making demands based on those accusations, I knew the fight was about to be killed. If Floyd didn't know that, then he's a fool.

He could have got his 14 day cut-off if he'd conducted the negotiations differently.

You mean his fathers accusations and other boxers accusations. Remember now where not talking about water polo. This is boxing. A contact sport. Not a feelings match. A grown mans sport. Who the hell cares about who disrespected who. Those fights with Hoya and Hatton happened didn't they? As Roach explained Manny wouldn't be ready for a fighter like Mayweather. Mayweather called the bluff on , ring size, glove size, money split and date. Pac could have accepted the 14 day cut off and his biggest pay day but decided to walk away because his ***** was hurt? Then decides to fight in court? THEN decides to talk trash about WANTING the fight badly. GTFOH.....

I work with a lazy eyed phillipino and that dude doesn't now what to say about Pac.. All he comes back with is "What happened to Cotto"?, then I don't have shyt to say so are boxing convo never makes it anywhere......

Pac didn't want that fight or else he would have accepted the 14 day cut off. He felt threatened and bullied as ANY fighter will feel when about to face Mayweather. He beats anyone at mind games in and out of the ring. Again, as Roach explained Pac wasn't ready for a fighter like Mayweather in March. All he had to say was we need more time.... not the our feelings are hurt game. The fight WILL happen if both sides win there next fight. Pac will give in IMO and prove that he has nothing to hide..... All it will do is cause arguments from Roach and Sr..... The two that really made this all happen in the first place other than the few boxers that said Pac was juicing. Mayweather is just backing his dad and "requested" in contract a random test up until 14 days of the fight. Pac walked away ***** all sore and went to fight in court and a lesser fighter in the ring......

[Dave Rado]

If Pac and Mosley is such an easy fight to be made. Then it would have been made when Mosley called Pac out last year twice. He even went to his gym. So shut the hell up *******!!!

Don't be daft. He chose to fight Cotto rather than Mosley because Cotto was a bigger fight at the time, and because Cotto had beaten Mosley. And then he was in negotiations with Mayweather. Once the Mayweather fight had fallen through, Mosley was tied up with a contract to fight Berto. He would like Mosley to beat Mayweather because a fight with Mosley would be easy to make, whereas Mayweather is using clever but disingenious means to kill any possibility of the fight happening.

[WESS]

It was 24 days before the fight, and Pac offered to take random tests up to 24 days before the fight, and a blood test immediately following the fight, and random urine tests up to the day of the fight - but Floyd turned it down. And Floyd's 14 offer wasn't made until the negotiations had already broken down, by which time Pacquiao was too angry about having his character assassinated to be willing to compromise any further.

Are you reading what your typing????? Jesus Christ this boxing not high school... These guys who get paid millions on top of millions of dollars.... and your talking about feelings...... wtf....

Pac too angry hahaha jesus man that's just pathetic.

and pitiful....... Pacs a grown ass man and a FIGHTER.... the accuses your trying to make don't do any justice for a FIGHTER and or a grown ass man.

I like Pac but your trying to make him sound like a sensitive ass bytch.... he just didn't want the fight. period. Don't talk about feelings. lol This is a contact sport dude...... Its people like you that disgust me when you say your a fan. No wonder die hard MMA people make fun of boxing... its people like you talking about "FEELINGS"... STFU and lets talk about boxing. I like you as a poster but WTF..... feelings? Are you serious........? 40 million turned down and you talk about feelings? **** man that's embarrassing.... feelings? Really??

[Dave Rado]

You mean his fathers accusations and other boxers accusations.

Jnr too.

Who the hell cares about who disrespected who. Those fights with Hoya and Hatton happened didn't they?

They only happened when De La Hoya and Hatton backed down and compromised.

Which Pac expected Floyd to do when Pac offered the 24 day compromise during the mediation. But he didn't.

The 14 day offer wasn't made until after the mediation had failed, by which time Pac was too angry to be willing to negotiate any more.

I think Pac should have swallowed his pride, but he has never done so in the past, when he's felt disrespected, and I was not at all surprised that he refused to do so this time.

Floyd should have known that would happen (if I knew it would, then he should have been capable of working it out, he's an intelligent man); and if he really wanted the fight to happen, he should have known he was going about things in a way that was bound to be counter-productive.

And his recent statements that he will no longer be willing to accept a 50/50 purse split, or a 14-day (or any) cut-off, are also extremely counter-productive, if he genuinely wants the fight to happen.

[Pretty Boy Greg]

You are a disgrace to NSB HaymakerJab!!!!!!!

i second that

[Dave Rado]

Are you reading what your typing????? Jesus Christ this boxing not high school... These guys who get paid millions on top of millions of dollars.... and your talking about feelings...... wtf....

I'm not saying that Pac did the right thing, I'm saying that his behaviour was completely predictable, given his character, his background, and the way he's conducted negotiations in the past.

If you've read all my posts in this thread, you'll see some in which I've said that if Pac wanted the fight as badly as he claims, he'd have agreed to Floyd's terms.

[ManniePhresh]

After Mayweather-Mosely destroys Pac-Clottey in ppv sales not only will pac have to give in and adhear to a fair fight through accurate random blood testing but, he'll have to give up the 50/50 purse split. Who in their right mind would give a guy who is proven to make less than you a 50/50 split. It'll probably be 55/45 because thats fair. Peace.

[WESS]

I'm not saying that Pac did the right thing, I'm saying that his behaviour was completely predictable, given his character, his background, and the way he's conducted negotiations in the past.

All I'm saying that Pacs fans and people could care less about what any of the mayweathers have to say. They don't influence or turn people against Pac. Its the people that already dislike Pac who beleieve what has been said. Pac talking about being angry and this and that and going to court is just pitiful and *****. It makes boxing look pathetic. I hate to have to defend it because of ****** shyt like that. The average person who's outside looking in sees one guy asking the other to take a test while steroids in baseball are being talked about in the background. All they see is a guy trying to make sure the other guy is clean. Only the guys already paying for the fight actually care and talk about feelings and pick who's right and wrong. The people looking in just see a guy trying to clean up a sport KNOWN for juicing.

Mayweather could in fact gone about it a different way but I doubt would have had to time for it to come into effect for a fight in March (a date requested by team Pac). So why not put it in contract? Just as Pac wanted for the weight fee. It was in contract and im sure they thought "MONEY" Mayweather would turn that crazy request down, just as the 50/50 split. Mayweather in fact didn't.

At the end of the day you have 3 people.

1. The people for Mayweather saying Pac walked away because he was scared of Mayweather and or testing

2. The people that say that Pac shouldn't "give in" to Mayweather's demands and Mayweather was scared

3. The people looking in that don't care about either sides but see fighter A trying to get fighter B to take a test and fighter B says no, walks away to fight a lesser fighter.....

How many people are 1 and 2 and how many are 3? Boxing is popular but NOT that popular. A lot of people are looking in and seeing a guy walk away from a major fight because his feelings where hurt due to a steroid test and accusations...... The sport looks bad. Both are to blame BUT team Pac could have said OK 14 days lets prove everyone wrong.